Good point, Sam. I haven't used Digital Ocean (except during a weekend Hackathon) but I have used Linode. They do give me access to do a manual restart through their interface, AND they let me do a rebuild from a backup. So neither of those actions are support-dependent. But if I want anything fancier, then yes I do need to get them on chat. -Bram On 3/24/2021 2:29 PM, Sam McClellan via Hidden-discuss wrote: > Hi Bram, > > Yes, we actually use Digital Ocean for prototyping more complex > systems we're developing before moving them to a dedicated server. The > main problem I have with Digital Ocean, and based on reviews it's the > same for all those instant VPS systems, is that we have no access to > their infrastructure and so are completely dependent on their level of > support. We've had instances where we've gone several hours without a > response, which is untenable. With a server, we have very quick access > to the infrastructure. Also, the storage space is expensive compared > to SSD's on a server. > > Sam > > > > *Sam McClellan* > > ** > > *Itabix, Inc* > > ** > > *one place for all things **web*** > > ** > > *sam at itabix.com* > > ** > > *https://itabix.com* > > ** > > *Main - 413.587.4600* > > ** > > *Toll-free - 877-7ITABIX (877.748.2249) * > > > On 3/24/2021 1:57 PM, Bram Moreinis via Hidden-discuss wrote: >> >> Recommendation: >> >> Use Linode instead of AWS. It isn't managed, but they provide great >> service: https://www.linode.com/ >> >> It's similar to Digital Ocean in that you can duplicate and engineer >> different server configurations. >> >> If all you want is a command line without the GUI, Linode gives you >> that too. >> >> You can buy Linode time by the day. >> >> -Bram >> >> On 3/24/2021 12:56 PM, Sam McClellan via Hidden-discuss wrote: >>>> I try not to give Jeff Bezos even one more dime, so will likely >>>> never wind up on AWS. >>> That is the issue I face as a host. I know a cloud format is better >>> than the single server format for hosting for several reasons, >>> principally redundancy, management and distributed content. But in >>> my experience, we're in a transition time when all the clouds that >>> are affordable enough and could be used for shared hosting are owned >>> by the same big companies that are trying to get our information and >>> that I don't want to support. >>> >>> I do believe private clouds will become more affordable and usable >>> over time. In the meantime we do our best -- our servers are hosted >>> in relatively green colo's that have direct access to the internet >>> backbone, we back up every day and, for any sites that need it for >>> bandwidth and global distribution, use a CDN - mainly Cloudflare, or >>> Sucuri if they need a firewall too. Love Sucuri. >>> >>> Sam >>> >>> >>> >>> *Sam McClellan* >>> >>> ** >>> >>> *Itabix, Inc* >>> >>> ** >>> >>> *one place for all things **web*** >>> >>> ** >>> >>> *sam at itabix.com* >>> >>> ** >>> >>> *https://itabix.com* >>> >>> ** >>> >>> *Main - 413.587.4600* >>> >>> ** >>> >>> *Toll-free - 877-7ITABIX (877.748.2249) * >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page:http://www.hidden-tech.net >>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>> >>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> -- >> >> >> Bram Moreinis, Technology Coordinator >> Springfield Lyceum College Prep >> Tech Support Phone: (413) 367-7340 >> School Website: online.slprep.org <https://online.slprep.org> >> /"A camino largo paso corto."/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page:http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -- Bram Moreinis, Technology Coordinator Springfield Lyceum College Prep Tech Support Phone: (413) 367-7340 School Website: online.slprep.org <https://online.slprep.org> /"A camino largo paso corto."/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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