[Hidden-tech] Alternative to SiteGround?

Wed Mar 24 20:52:46 UTC 2021

Yes, that's exactly the issue :( Anything beyond what you can do with 
SSH access, pulling a backup, and restarting you need access to support. 
Which is pretty much true of a dedicated server too, of course (with the 
addition of IPMI / direct access), but we've had very good experience 
with our colos.

Sam

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On 3/24/2021 3:53 PM, Bram Moreinis via Hidden-discuss wrote:
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> Good point, Sam.
>
> I haven't used Digital Ocean (except during a weekend Hackathon) but I 
> have used Linode.  They do give me access to do a manual restart 
> through their interface, AND they let me do a rebuild from a backup.  
> So neither of those actions are support-dependent.
>
> But if I want anything fancier, then yes I do need to get them on chat.
>
> -Bram
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> On 3/24/2021 2:29 PM, Sam McClellan via Hidden-discuss wrote:
>> Hi Bram,
>>
>> Yes, we actually use Digital Ocean for prototyping more complex 
>> systems we're developing before moving them to a dedicated server. 
>> The main problem I have with Digital Ocean, and based on reviews it's 
>> the same for all those instant VPS systems, is that we have no access 
>> to their infrastructure and so are completely dependent on their 
>> level of support. We've had instances where we've gone several hours 
>> without a response, which is untenable. With a server, we have very 
>> quick access to the infrastructure. Also, the storage space is 
>> expensive compared to SSD's on a server.
>>
>> Sam
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>> *Sam McClellan*
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>> On 3/24/2021 1:57 PM, Bram Moreinis via Hidden-discuss wrote:
>>>
>>> Recommendation:
>>>
>>> Use Linode instead of AWS.  It isn't managed, but they provide great 
>>> service: https://www.linode.com/
>>>
>>> It's similar to Digital Ocean in that you can duplicate and engineer 
>>> different server configurations.
>>>
>>> If all you want is a command line without the GUI, Linode gives you 
>>> that too.
>>>
>>> You can buy Linode time by the day.
>>>
>>> -Bram
>>>
>>> On 3/24/2021 12:56 PM, Sam McClellan via Hidden-discuss wrote:
>>>>> I try not to give Jeff Bezos even one more dime, so will likely 
>>>>> never wind up on AWS.
>>>> That is the issue I face as a host. I know a cloud format is better 
>>>> than the single server format for hosting for several reasons, 
>>>> principally redundancy, management and distributed content. But in 
>>>> my experience, we're in a transition time when all the clouds that 
>>>> are affordable enough and could be used for shared hosting are 
>>>> owned by the same big companies that are trying to get our 
>>>> information and that I don't want to support.
>>>>
>>>> I do believe private clouds will become more affordable and usable 
>>>> over time. In the meantime we do our best -- our servers are hosted 
>>>> in relatively green colo's that have direct access to the internet 
>>>> backbone, we back up every day and, for any sites that need it for 
>>>> bandwidth and global distribution, use a CDN - mainly Cloudflare, 
>>>> or Sucuri if they need a firewall too. Love Sucuri.
>>>>
>>>> Sam
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