[Hidden-tech] Rural fast internet

Rich@tnr rich at tnrglobal.com
Sat Jun 13 19:05:52 UTC 2020


Sam,
Thanks for a detailed, technical and reasoned response to Deb's 5G response.

I need to remind people that this list is not a political list and not 
the place for political rants, not matter how justified you may feel.
Only short responses directly on topic will be allowed -- keep your 
rants to places like FB.

Please people remember why people are here -- and Stay well.
Rich

On 6/13/2020 2:22 PM, Sam McClellan via Hidden-discuss wrote:
> Hi Deb,
>
> I have family and a lot of friends who are EMF sensitive and I believe 
> they are the canaries in the coal mine in terms of our EMF exposure. I 
> am worried about 5G as well.
>
> Starlink doesn't use 5G, which is in the 3.5-4.2 GHz range; it uses a 
> number of frequencies that are normally used for satellite 
> communication - 10.7-12.7 GHz, 13.85-14.5 GHz, 17.8-18.6 GHz, 
> 18.8-19.3 GHz, 27.5-29.1 GHz, and 29.5-30 GHz bands. There are a few 
> reasons why Starlink doesn't have anywhere near the potential for 
> damage as 5G.
>
> 5G is a somewhat higher frequency than 4G (2-8GHz) and 3G 
> (1.8-2.5GHz). The higher the frequency, the more energy is needed to 
> penetrate structures like buildings and the more it needs to be line 
> of site. Because of this, and because they're carrying a lot more 
> information, they need a lot more antennae with a total higher energy 
> than 3G or 4G which means a lot more exposure of the population to EMF.
>
> Because Starlink is just sending radio waves to and from a receiver 
> exposed to the sky and it doesn't need to penetrate buildings, the 
> amount of energy needed is far lower. Also, Starlink uses a phased 
> array antenna which uses a narrow beam that is targeted between the 
> antennae, not omnidirectional like cell phones, radios, TV, etc. so 
> the amount of EMF received drops off pretty quickly as you get farther 
> from the antenna.
>
> Sam
>
>
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> On 6/13/2020 12:21 PM, Deborah Chandler wrote:
>> Hi Sam,
>>
>> With all due respect, folks need to realize that if they invite 5G 
>> into their homes, they could very well be inviting severe health issues.
>>
>> As someone who already experiences health issues from 2, 3 and 4G. 
>> And honestly, it is near impossible to get an honest answer from the 
>> telecom industry as to where their 5G is already deployed. I have 
>> tried to ask Verizon where their 5G towers are, and they refuse to 
>> answer, citing vandalism as the reason)
>>
>> I strongly discourage exposure to 5G. Someone may not feel the 
>> effects right away, but down the road will likely suffer with 
>> anxiety, depression, memory loss, tinnitus, digestive issues, sleep 
>> disturbance, heart attacks, congestive heart failure, cancer, 
>> diabetes, dementia...and with the second wave of Covid predicted for 
>> the fall, some of these symptoms will be blamed on Covid.
>>
>> Please use due diligence, do your research. Visit www.5Gcrisis.com 
>> <http://www.5Gcrisis.com> and check out the many groups, some on 
>> Facebook, who are focused on these issues. Plenty of videos on 
>> YouTube (and because YouTube is censoring, try Bitchute and LBRY). I 
>> am happy to provide links and direct folks to the key people who are 
>> fighting the 5G deployment. In MA, Cece Doucette in Ashland is 
>> heading the charge, filing bills with our legislators. She travels 
>> all around, doing workshops on these issues. We all know the telecom 
>> lobbyists are being incredibly persistent with our legislators, and 
>> money is no object. It is a tough battle. We have an unalienable 
>> right to protect our very health and wellbeing.
>>
>> Thanks for listening,
>> Deb
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 11:13 AM Sam McClellan via Hidden-discuss 
>> <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net 
>> <mailto:hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>> wrote:
>>
>>     For those of you who are stuck on dial-up or expensive satellite
>>     or even slow DSL, Elon Musk's (Tesla, SpaceX) company Starlink is
>>     planning to start opening their satellite internet up for beta
>>     testers by late summer/early fall and general availability soon
>>     after.
>>
>>     Starlink is different than HughesNet and Viasat in two ways -
>>     their satellites are in much lower orbit and there will be many
>>     more of them, so the latency (time between when you click the
>>     button and when things happen) is the same or quicker than cable.
>>     Their upload/download speed and pricing should also be comparable
>>     to cable as well, although no numbers have been released yet.
>>
>>     They will have an antenna described as "a large pizza box on a
>>     stick" that will automatically align itself to point to
>>     satellites, and they say setup should be as simple as attach the
>>     receiver to your deck railing or house where it has a view of the
>>     sky, plug it into your router/computer, plug it into the wall
>>     socket, let it align and you're set.
>>
>>     If you're interested, you can sign up to get updates and to
>>     possibly get to be a beta tester here:
>>     https://www.starlink.com/
>>
>>     Sam
>>     -- 
>>
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>>     Sam McClellan
>>     *Itabix, Inc*
>>     /One place for all things Web/
>>     sam at itabix.com <mailto:sam at itabix.com>
>>     https://itabix.com
>>     Main - 413.587.4600
>>     Toll-free - 877-7ITABIX (877.748.2249)
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