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<p>Sam,<br>
Thanks for a detailed, technical and reasoned response to Deb's 5G
response.<br>
<br>
I need to remind people that this list is not a political list and
not the place for political rants, not matter how justified you
may feel.<br>
Only short responses directly on topic will be allowed -- keep
your rants to places like FB.<br>
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<p>Please people remember why people are here -- and Stay well.<br>
Rich<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/13/2020 2:22 PM, Sam McClellan via
Hidden-discuss wrote:<br>
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Hi Deb,<br>
<br>
I have family and a lot of friends who are EMF sensitive and I
believe they are the canaries in the coal mine in terms of our EMF
exposure. I am worried about 5G as well.<br>
<br>
Starlink doesn't use 5G, which is in the 3.5-4.2 GHz range; it
uses a number of frequencies that are normally used for satellite
communication - 10.7-12.7 GHz, 13.85-14.5 GHz, 17.8-18.6 GHz,
18.8-19.3 GHz, 27.5-29.1 GHz, and 29.5-30 GHz bands. There are a
few reasons why Starlink doesn't have anywhere near the potential
for damage as 5G. <br>
<br>
5G is a somewhat higher frequency than 4G (2-8GHz) and 3G
(1.8-2.5GHz). The higher the frequency, the more energy is needed
to penetrate structures like buildings and the more it needs to be
line of site. Because of this, and because they're carrying a lot
more information, they need a lot more antennae with a total
higher energy than 3G or 4G which means a lot more exposure of the
population to EMF. <br>
<br>
Because Starlink is just sending radio waves to and from a
receiver exposed to the sky and it doesn't need to penetrate
buildings, the amount of energy needed is far lower. Also,
Starlink uses a phased array antenna which uses a narrow beam that
is targeted between the antennae, not omnidirectional like cell
phones, radios, TV, etc. so the amount of EMF received drops off
pretty quickly as you get farther from the antenna.<br>
<br>
Sam<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/13/2020 12:21 PM, Deborah
Chandler wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Hi Sam,
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<div dir="auto">With all due respect, folks need to realize
that if they invite 5G into their homes, they could very
well be inviting severe health issues. </div>
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<div dir="auto">As someone who already experiences health
issues from 2, 3 and 4G. And honestly, it is near impossible
to get an honest answer from the telecom industry as to
where their 5G is already deployed. I have tried to ask
Verizon where their 5G towers are, and they refuse to
answer, citing vandalism as the reason) </div>
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<div dir="auto">I strongly discourage exposure to 5G. Someone
may not feel the effects right away, but down the road will
likely suffer with anxiety, depression, memory loss,
tinnitus, digestive issues, sleep disturbance, heart
attacks, congestive heart failure, cancer, diabetes,
dementia...and with the second wave of Covid predicted for
the fall, some of these symptoms will be blamed on Covid. </div>
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<div dir="auto">Please use due diligence, do your research.
Visit <a href="http://www.5Gcrisis.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">www.5Gcrisis.com</a> and check out
the many groups, some on Facebook, who are focused on these
issues. Plenty of videos on YouTube (and because YouTube is
censoring, try Bitchute and LBRY). I am happy to provide
links and direct folks to the key people who are fighting
the 5G deployment. In MA, Cece Doucette in Ashland is
heading the charge, filing bills with our legislators. She
travels all around, doing workshops on these issues. We all
know the telecom lobbyists are being incredibly persistent
with our legislators, and money is no object. It is a tough
battle. We have an unalienable right to protect our very
health and wellbeing.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Thanks for listening,</div>
<div dir="auto">Deb</div>
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<div> <font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">For those
of you who are stuck on dial-up or expensive satellite
or even slow DSL, Elon Musk's (Tesla, SpaceX) company
Starlink is planning to start opening their satellite
internet up for beta testers by late summer/early fall
and general availability soon after. <br>
<br>
Starlink is different than HughesNet and Viasat in two
ways - their satellites are in much lower orbit and
there will be many more of them, so the latency (time
between when you click the button and when things
happen) is the same or quicker than cable. Their
upload/download speed and pricing should also be
comparable to cable as well, although no numbers have
been released yet. <br>
<br>
They will have an antenna described as "a large pizza
box on a stick" that will automatically align itself to
point to satellites, and they say setup should be as
simple as attach the receiver to your deck railing or
house where it has a view of the sky, plug it into your
router/computer, plug it into the wall socket, let it
align and you're set. <br>
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If you're interested, you can sign up to get updates and
to possibly get to be a beta tester here:<br>
</font><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><a
href="https://www.starlink.com/" target="_blank"
rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.starlink.com/</a><br>
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Sam<br>
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