I'm unsure if it's helpful in this particular situation, but in general I can recommend the DiskUsage app for understanding what's actually taking up space. It's available [on Google Play] and [on F-Droid]. It hasn't been updated in years, but that's because it's pretty simple and is basically complete & doesn't need anything else. It was originally part of Android; I'm not sure why they ever removed it. [on Google Play]: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.diskusage&hl=en_US [on F-Droid]: https://f-droid.org/packages/com.google.android.diskusage On November 23, 2021 1:10:02 AM UTC, Shel Horowitz via Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: >And actually, it must have still been deleting the cached photos, because >20 minutes later, all the pictures I *hadn't* deleted were back--but I've >turned Google backup off and when I deleted one of today's photos, I didn't >get the "almost full, this will be permanent" message. Yay! > >One oddity is it's not asking me if I want to save changes when it offers >to fix lighting--just to save to a copy. I suspect that has to do with >turning off Google backup. > >On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 7:02 PM Shel Horowitz <shel at principledprofit.com> >wrote: > >> Thanks, Rob and Rich. After checking that Dropbox (where my photos are >> automatically backed up) was up-to-date, I cleared both the cache and >> storage. It means I no longer have ANY photos on the phone except the most >> recent one I took today, but I can get them from Dropbox or my backed up >> copy on external drive. >> >> On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 1:31 PM Rob Laporte via Hidden-discuss < >> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: >> >>> I had the same bedeviling problems of storage filling up despite >>> deletions (on prior phone with less room), and that Google One app made the >>> usability of actually clearing space so much easier than untangling various >>> app storage settings to manage. >>> >>> As an aside, it also helped me to discover that for years I must have >>> often hit an audio recording button that looked like other red app buttons, >>> so I had tons of big audio files taking space outside of my manual delete >>> methods. My Google-One helped find that problem. The small cost saved me, >>> like, $500 in lost billable time. >>> >>> Take Care, >>> >>> >>> Rob Laporte >>> >>> Chief Business Development Officer | Founder | Chairman >>> >>> DISC - Making Websites Make Money >>> >>> 413-584-6500 >>> >>> rob at 2disc.com | LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/2disc/> | 2DISC.com >>> <https://www.2disc.com> >>> >>> >>> *NOTE:* Emails can be blocked by spam filters throughout the web. If you >>> don’t get a reply within an expected span of time, please call. >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net> on >>> behalf of Rich at tnr via Hidden-discuss < >>> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> >>> *Sent:* Monday, November 22, 2021 1:03 PM >>> *To:* hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net < >>> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> >>> *Subject:* Re: [Hidden-tech] Droid phone storage issue >>> >>> >>> it sounds like you have deleted imto the trash (allows undelete) >>> Like all modern devices there are a dozens paths to what looks like the >>> same feature >>> >>> SO >>> Google Photos does automate back up to https://photos.google.com >>> To delete images you have to use the 3 dots in the upper right to 'delete >>> from device' >>> While the regular trash deletes from device and photos.google >>> >>> OR >>> Get Files by google >>> It backs up to google drive and then you can delete from device >>> It also has an options to clear the 'trash' which is probably what you >>> want. >>> >>> Some of the confusion comes from options on the camera and 'File by G' >>> that look like Photos but isn;t >>> >>> Yeah - isn't tech fun. >>> >>> Good luck >>> Rich >>> On 11/22/2021 11:29 AM, Shel Horowitz via Hidden-discuss wrote: >>> >>> Thanks, Rob, but I don't think this will solve the problem. It's not >>> about how much space I have in the Google cloud, but how I can get my >>> actual device to notice that it has plenty of room. But it's still good to >>> know about and I might upgrade at some point. >>> ᐧ >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 10:24 AM Rob Laporte <rob at 2disc.com> wrote: >>> >>> Google One: https://one.google.com/about >>> >>> Take Care, >>> >>> >>> Rob Laporte >>> >>> Chief Business Development Officer | Founder | Chairman >>> >>> DISC - Making Websites Make Money >>> >>> 413-584-6500 >>> >>> rob at 2disc.com | LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/2disc/> | 2DISC.com >>> <https://www.2disc.com> >>> >>> >>> *NOTE:* Emails can be blocked by spam filters throughout the web. If you >>> don’t get a reply within an expected span of time, please call. >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net> on >>> behalf of Shel Horowitz via Hidden-discuss < >>> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> >>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 21, 2021 3:13 PM >>> *To:* Hidden-Tech Tech <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> >>> *Subject:* [Hidden-tech] Droid phone storage issue >>> >>> Hi, folks, my Moto X4 Android doesn't seem to be releasing space when I >>> delete. I removed more than 4000 photos (not an exaggeration) over the past >>> ten days, including 2000+ on one day--and it still tells me I'm almost out >>> of storage. I have restarted multiple times and also run a cleaner utility. >>> >>> How do I get my space back? >>> >>> Many thanks, >>> >>> -- >>> Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur" >>> ________________________________________________ >>> Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, >>> poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change >>> * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified >>> * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame >>> * Certified speaker: International Platform Association >>> http://goingbeyondsustainability.com >>> mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com 413-586-2388 >>> Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. >>> Latest: Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World >>> (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson) >>> >>> Watch my TEDx Talk, >>> "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" >>> http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 >>> (move your mouse to "event videos") >>> _________________________________________________ >>> >>> ᐧ >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur" >>> ________________________________________________ >>> Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, >>> poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change >>> * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified >>> * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame >>> * Certified speaker: International Platform Association >>> http://goingbeyondsustainability.com >>> mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com 413-586-2388 >>> Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. >>> Latest: Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World >>> (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson) >>> >>> Watch my TEDx Talk, >>> "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" >>> http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 >>> (move your mouse to "event videos") >>> _________________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.netHidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net >>> >>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site.http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>> >>> -- >>> Rich Roth >>> CEO TnR Global >>> >>> Bio and personal blog: http://rizbang.com >>> Building the really big sites: http://www.tnrglobal.com >>> Small/Soho business in the PV: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>> Places to meet for business: http://www.meetmewhere.com >>> And for Arts and relaxation:http://TarotMuertos.com - Artistic Tarot Deck >>> http://www.welovemuseums.com >>> http://www.artonmytv.com/ >>> Shakers: http://www.shakerpedia.com/ >>> Helping move the world: http://www.earththrives.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>> >>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>> >> >> >> -- >> Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur" >> ________________________________________________ >> Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, >> poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change >> * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified >> * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame >> * Certified speaker: International Platform Association >> http://goingbeyondsustainability.com >> mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com 413-586-2388 >> Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. >> Latest: Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World >> (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson) >> >> Watch my TEDx Talk, >> "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" >> http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 >> (move your mouse to "event videos") >> _________________________________________________ >> >> > -- To respect your time, I try to write short, functional emails.