[Hidden-tech] Advice sought: Can passive WiFi use by a crowd's phones drain bandwidth...?

[Donald M Stevens]

Hey Duane,

I was thinking,
Do you have a cloud account / hosting company where you could put this video.
Then the streaming would be off your network on up to each individual that would be watching from their own location.....
Just a thought.

Thanks!
Don

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From: Donald M Stevens <dstevens at tryandfindit.com>
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2021 12:29 PM
To: Duane Dale <duane.dale at gmail.com>; Hidden-Tech Tech <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Advice sought: Can passive WiFi use by a crowd's phones drain bandwidth...?

Good morning Duane
1. Have you tested on an off day when little to no one is there using the wifi?
2. Which internet service are you using?
3. What device actually provides the wifi?
4. I use the wired wifi extender setup whenever possible back to your main wifi device.
5. Have you considered turning off guest access during video presentations?
There's more,
But to answer your questions
Yes. Brick or block walls, distance, the amount of users. Etc... Will all contribute to bandwidth usage
Don

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Subject: [Hidden-tech] Advice sought: Can passive WiFi use by a crowd's phones drain bandwidth...?

Holiday greetings, Hidden Tech.

My church has been offering live streaming of its Sunday services via its YouTube channel.
Hiccups in the video (and audio) stream are common. (And those hiccups show up when streaming the recorded version after-the-fact.)

An iPhone in the sanctuary is doing the "capture" and is connected by WiFi to a cable modem/router in an adjoining room (outside the stone walls of the church).

Some people place blame on those stone walls, but my speedcheck in an otherwise-empty sanctuary shows a pretty consistent ~25 Mbps up and down.

As a possible solution, a WiFi extender in the sanctuary, wired with CAT6 to the modem/router, has been tried with apparent success for small mid-week services, and we may start using it for the Sunday services.

But here's my question:
Can passive WiFi use by a crowd's phones drain bandwidth and/or slow transmission speeds?
Imagine a Sunday service with 100+ people in the space.
Imagine that a majority have smartphones in their pockets, and some % of those are on, with WiFi enabled,
and some % of those have used the WiFi modem/router in question and have stored its password.
Let's say 25 such phones, though it might possibly be 50.

Assume that no one is making intentional use of WiFi (streaming the service, watching movies, checking emails...) other than the "official" streaming iPhone,
but some (most?) of those with WiFi enabled might have connected "automatically" to the modem/router in question and are doing passive tasks, unattended.

With 25-50 such phones, could that raid bandwidth enough to cause hiccups in a live video upload?
(Or if not with 25-50 phones, what about 250-500 such phones in a larger hall? Or some even-larger number?)

If that could be a problem, are there solutions other than the obvious one -- asking everyone to power off, or use airplane mode, etc.??
Or some sort of temporary lock-out of all but the preferred device?

Thanks for any insights and advice.
Duane Dale


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