[Hidden-tech] Advice sought: Can passive WiFi use by a crowd's phones drain bandwidth...?

[Daniel Nachbar]

Old Electrical Engineer adage: "Radio will make you crazy!"
Corollary: When in doubt, try a hard-wired connection.

Is there any way you can string an ethernet cable to the phone/camera and
skip the wifi completely?

On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 6:39 PM Donald M Stevens via Hidden-discuss <
hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:

> Hey Duane,
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> I was thinking,
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> Do you have a cloud account / hosting company where you could put this
> video.
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> Then the streaming would be off your network on up to each individual that
> would be watching from their own location…..
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> Just a thought.
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> Thanks!
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> Don
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> *From:* Donald M Stevens <dstevens at tryandfindit.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, December 06, 2021 12:29 PM
> *To:* Duane Dale <duane.dale at gmail.com>; Hidden-Tech Tech <
> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Hidden-tech] Advice sought: Can passive WiFi use by a
> crowd's phones drain bandwidth...?
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> Good morning Duane
>
> 1. Have you tested on an off day when little to no one is there using the
> wifi?
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> 2. Which internet service are you using?
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> 3. What device actually provides the wifi?
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> 4. I use the wired wifi extender setup whenever possible back to your main
> wifi device.
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> 5. Have you considered turning off guest access during video presentations?
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> There's more,
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> But to answer your questions
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> Yes. Brick or block walls, distance, the amount of users. Etc... Will all
> contribute to bandwidth usage
>
> Don
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> *From:* Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net> on
> behalf of Duane Dale via Hidden-discuss <
> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
> *Sent:* Monday, December 6, 2021 11:32:22 AM
> *To:* Hidden-Tech Tech <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
> *Subject:* [Hidden-tech] Advice sought: Can passive WiFi use by a crowd's
> phones drain bandwidth...?
>
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>
> Holiday greetings, Hidden Tech.
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> My church has been offering live streaming of its Sunday services via its
> YouTube channel.
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> Hiccups in the video (and audio) stream are common. (And those hiccups
> show up when streaming the recorded version after-the-fact.)
>
>
>
> An iPhone in the sanctuary is doing the "capture" and is connected by WiFi
> to a cable modem/router in an adjoining room (outside the stone walls of
> the church).
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> Some people place blame on those stone walls, but my speedcheck in an
> otherwise-empty sanctuary shows a pretty consistent ~25 Mbps up and down.
>
>
> As a possible solution, a WiFi extender in the sanctuary, wired with CAT6
> to the modem/router, has been tried with apparent success for small
> mid-week services, and we may start using it for the Sunday services.
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>
>
> *But here's my question:  *Can passive WiFi use by a crowd's phones drain
> bandwidth and/or slow transmission speeds?
> Imagine a Sunday service with 100+ people in the space.
> Imagine that a majority have smartphones in their pockets, and some % of
> those are on, with WiFi enabled,
>
> and some % of *those* have used the WiFi modem/router in question and
> have stored its password.
>
> Let's say 25 such phones, though it might possibly be 50.
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>
>
> Assume that no one is making intentional use of WiFi (streaming the
> service, watching movies, checking emails...) other than the "official"
> streaming iPhone,
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> but some (most?) of those with WiFi enabled might have connected
> "automatically" to the modem/router in question and are doing passive
> tasks, unattended.
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> With 25-50 such phones, could that raid bandwidth enough to cause hiccups
> in a live video upload?
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> (Or if not with 25-50 phones, what about 250-500 such phones in a larger
> hall? Or some even-larger number?)
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> If that could be a problem, are there solutions other than the obvious one
> -- asking everyone to power off, or use airplane mode, etc.??
>
> Or some sort of temporary lock-out of all but the preferred device?
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> Thanks for any insights and advice.
>
> Duane Dale
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