[Hidden-tech] Social Media for HT

Wed Jun 10 10:26:17 UTC 2020

Hi

For some reason I had to really dig to find the original post. I’m 
with the anti-FB people. I use it for a closed group I have and it’s 
awful for finding things.

HT works well enough for me - but that’s because I use MailMate and 
have a smart filter that throws all emails into a folder where I can 
view, peruse and respond according to my interest/energy.  I can see how 
it could not be useful for others as a email in an inbox.

I think, if Rich and others are up to it, it would be interesting to 
have an alternative social media to use. I didn’t see [Discourse 
](https://www.discourse.org/) on the list Rich created. I’ve had my 
eye on it as an alternative to my FB group.

My two cents.
Annamarie

On 9 Jun 2020, at 20:40, Stephen Michel via Hidden-discuss wrote:

> Before jumping in to a conversation about specific platforms, I think 
> it would be helpful to clarify our motivations:
>
> - Are there any issues with the current setup?
> - Are there any features the current setup lacks that we'd like to 
> have?
>
> Once we've established our motivations (and hopefully some agreement), 
> we can evaluate how well specific solutions would address them and 
> weigh that against any downsides. Otherwise, it's easy to get bogged 
> down in meandering debate.
>
> Here is mine — in the form of a "driver statement"[1], a framing 
> I've found very useful for making motivations easy to discuss — and 
> my attempt at summarizing Rich's original email[2] the same way:
>
> - [me] Subscription settings are very course, so I have to choose 
> between processing conversations I don't care about and missing those 
> that I do. Finer-grained settings would allow me to engage at the 
> level I'd prefer.
> - [Rich] We get few new signups and people unsubscribe with every long 
> conversation, so HT membership is shrinking over time. A stable (or 
> growing) membership would keep the list useful, since more people will 
> be available to help.
>
> I'll take my own advice and hold off on airing my (strong) opinions on 
> specific proposals, for the moment.
>
> Cheers,
> Stephen
>
> [1] From Sociocracy 3.0 
> <https://patterns.sociocracy30.org/describe-organizational-drivers.html>
>
> [2] I originally was going to summarize the whole thread, but other 
> replies were either focused on negatives (not time for that yet!) or 
> missing parts of a driver (description of the current situation).
> --
> I try to write short, functional emails.
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 18:54, Rich at tnr via Hidden-discuss 
> <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
>> That's right, interesting - it looks like the invalid member option 
>> of the listing is not valid (fancy that)
>>  Actually the flag on the member dump command are not correct, had to 
>> do more figuring.
>>
>> Rerun:
>>  Nogood:     232
>>  Regukar:        2092
>>  Digest:         105
>>
>> On 6/9/2020 4:46 PM, Christine Dutton wrote:
>>> Thanks!
>>>  I find it odd that the invalid and valid numbers are the same...
>>> I'm personally in favor of FB groups, as I've mentioned before. When 
>>> using FB groups, you are more likely to create great networking and 
>>> learning opportunities.
>>> *Christine Dutton*
>>> *Dutton Consulting *
>>> *413-626-6377*
>>> *Find me on Facebook here!  
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/duttonconsulting/>*
>>> *
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 4:42 PM Rich at tnr via Hidden-discuss 
>>> <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net 
>>> <mailto:hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>> wrote:
>>>> Time for another review of how HT works for you each.
>>>>
>>>>  A long discussion always leads to people dropping off, many of 
>>>> whom forget this defeats the purpose of having more people to help, 
>>>> at the cost of a few uninteresting emails.  We tried FB and 
>>>> Linkedin a while back,  while little interest, given how time goes 
>>>> it could be 10 years.
>>>>  We also get few additional members so there are clearly not much 
>>>> PR happening.
>>>>
>>>> What you may not know, here is a summary of members.
>>>>  Invalid:     2429  (means email addresses that bounced)
>>>>  No mail:    501   (members who dropped off)
>>>>  Valid:        2429
>>>>
>>>> Personally I'm not in favor of FB although we do own 
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/Hidden-tech-271876579588753>
>>>>  (it is currently hidden)
>>>>
>>>> I have been looking for alternatives and found a quite a number of 
>>>> options:
>>>>  This is one of the more interesting because it will run on a 
>>>> standard apache/php server : https://friendi.ca/
>>>>  <https://friendi.ca/>
>>>>  There are more here: 
>>>> <http://www.hidden-tech.net/social-media-ideas/>
>>>>  <https://friendi.ca/>
>>>>  I am wondering how many would use any of these.
>>>>  Let start with the general idea and we can narrow to options if 
>>>> there is interest.
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> CEO TnR Global
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>> Rich Roth
>> CEO TnR Global
>>
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>> Building the really big sites:      http://www.tnrglobal.com 
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