[Hidden-tech] Social Media for HT

Wed Jun 10 00:40:32 UTC 2020

Before jumping in to a conversation about specific platforms, I think 
it would be helpful to clarify our motivations:

- Are there any issues with the current setup?
- Are there any features the current setup lacks that we'd like to have?

Once we've established our motivations (and hopefully some agreement), 
we can evaluate how well specific solutions would address them and 
weigh that against any downsides. Otherwise, it's easy to get bogged 
down in meandering debate.

Here is mine — in the form of a "driver statement"[1], a framing I've 
found very useful for making motivations easy to discuss — and my 
attempt at summarizing Rich's original email[2] the same way:

- [me] Subscription settings are very course, so I have to choose 
between processing conversations I don't care about and missing those 
that I do. Finer-grained settings would allow me to engage at the level 
I'd prefer.
- [Rich] We get few new signups and people unsubscribe with every long 
conversation, so HT membership is shrinking over time. A stable (or 
growing) membership would keep the list useful, since more people will 
be available to help.

I'll take my own advice and hold off on airing my (strong) opinions on 
specific proposals, for the moment.

Cheers,
Stephen

[1] From Sociocracy 3.0 
<https://patterns.sociocracy30.org/describe-organizational-drivers.html>

[2] I originally was going to summarize the whole thread, but other 
replies were either focused on negatives (not time for that yet!) or 
missing parts of a driver (description of the current situation).
--
I try to write short, functional emails.

On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 18:54, Rich at tnr via Hidden-discuss 
<hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
> That's right, interesting - it looks like the invalid member option 
> of the listing is not valid (fancy that)
>  Actually the flag on the member dump command are not correct, had to 
> do more figuring.
> 
> Rerun:
>  Nogood:     232
>  Regukar:        2092
>  Digest:         105
> 
> On 6/9/2020 4:46 PM, Christine Dutton wrote:
>> Thanks!
>>  I find it odd that the invalid and valid numbers are the same...
>> I'm personally in favor of FB groups, as I've mentioned before. When 
>> using FB groups, you are more likely to create great networking and 
>> learning opportunities.
>> *Christine Dutton*
>> *Dutton Consulting *
>> *413-626-6377*
>> *Find me on Facebook here!  
>> <https://www.facebook.com/duttonconsulting/>*
>> *
>> *
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 4:42 PM Rich at tnr via Hidden-discuss 
>> <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net 
>> <mailto:hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>> wrote:
>>> Time for another review of how HT works for you each.
>>> 
>>>  A long discussion always leads to people dropping off, many of 
>>> whom forget this defeats the purpose of having more people to help, 
>>> at the cost of a few uninteresting emails.  We tried FB and 
>>> Linkedin a while back,  while little interest, given how time goes 
>>> it could be 10 years.
>>>  We also get few additional members so there are clearly not much 
>>> PR happening.
>>> 
>>> What you may not know, here is a summary of members.
>>>  Invalid:     2429  (means email addresses that bounced)
>>>  No mail:    501   (members who dropped off)
>>>  Valid:        2429
>>> 
>>> Personally I'm not in favor of FB although we do own 
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/Hidden-tech-271876579588753>
>>>  (it is currently hidden)
>>> 
>>> I have been looking for alternatives and found a quite a number of 
>>> options:
>>>  This is one of the more interesting because it will run on a 
>>> standard apache/php server : https://friendi.ca/
>>>  <https://friendi.ca/>
>>>  There are more here: 
>>> <http://www.hidden-tech.net/social-media-ideas/>
>>>  <https://friendi.ca/>
>>>  I am wondering how many would use any of these.
>>>  Let start with the general idea and we can narrow to options if 
>>> there is interest.
>>> 
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> Rich Roth
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> 
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> Building the really big sites:      http://www.tnrglobal.com 
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