[Hidden-tech] Social Media for HT

Wed Jun 10 13:22:30 UTC 2020

FB groups can be great, as long as you use the tools to set it up.
Regarding feeling overwhelmed with email, it's important to have your
emails stacked.
Then each incoming email will be part of that one string instead of looking
like multiple emails in your inbox.

*Christine Dutton*
*Dutton Consulting *
*413-626-6377*
*Find me on Facebook here!  <https://www.facebook.com/duttonconsulting/>*

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 8:51 AM Annamarie Pluhar via Hidden-discuss <
hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:

> Hi
>
> For some reason I had to really dig to find the original post. I’m with
> the anti-FB people. I use it for a closed group I have and it’s awful for
> finding things.
>
> HT works well enough for me - but that’s because I use MailMate and have a
> smart filter that throws all emails into a folder where I can view, peruse
> and respond according to my interest/energy. I can see how it could not be
> useful for others as a email in an inbox.
>
> I think, if Rich and others are up to it, it would be interesting to have
> an alternative social media to use. I didn’t see Discourse
> <https://www.discourse.org/> on the list Rich created. I’ve had my eye on
> it as an alternative to my FB group.
>
> My two cents.
> Annamarie
>
> On 9 Jun 2020, at 20:40, Stephen Michel via Hidden-discuss wrote:
>
> Before jumping in to a conversation about specific platforms, I think it
> would be helpful to clarify our motivations:
>
> - Are there any issues with the current setup?
> - Are there any features the current setup lacks that we'd like to have?
>
> Once we've established our motivations (and hopefully some agreement), we
> can evaluate how well specific solutions would address them and weigh that
> against any downsides. Otherwise, it's easy to get bogged down in
> meandering debate.
>
> Here is mine — in the form of a "driver statement"[1], a framing I've
> found very useful for making motivations easy to discuss — and my attempt
> at summarizing Rich's original email[2] the same way:
>
> - [me] Subscription settings are very course, so I have to choose between
> processing conversations I don't care about and missing those that I do.
> Finer-grained settings would allow me to engage at the level I'd prefer.
> - [Rich] We get few new signups and people unsubscribe with every long
> conversation, so HT membership is shrinking over time. A stable (or
> growing) membership would keep the list useful, since more people will be
> available to help.
>
> I'll take my own advice and hold off on airing my (strong) opinions on
> specific proposals, for the moment.
>
> Cheers,
> Stephen
>
> [1] From Sociocracy 3.0
> https://patterns.sociocracy30.org/describe-organizational-drivers.html
>
> [2] I originally was going to summarize the whole thread, but other
> replies were either focused on negatives (not time for that yet!) or
> missing parts of a driver (description of the current situation).
> --
> I try to write short, functional emails.
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 18:54, Rich at tnr via Hidden-discuss <
> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
>
> That's right, interesting - it looks like the invalid member option of the
> listing is not valid (fancy that)
> Actually the flag on the member dump command are not correct, had to do
> more figuring.
>
> Rerun:
> Nogood:     232
> Regukar:        2092
> Digest:         105
> On 6/9/2020 4:46 PM, Christine Dutton wrote:
>
> Thanks!
> I find it odd that the invalid and valid numbers are the same...
> I'm personally in favor of FB groups, as I've mentioned before. When using
> FB groups, you are more likely to create great networking and learning
> opportunities.
> *Christine Dutton*
> *Dutton Consulting *
> *413-626-6377*
> *Find me on Facebook here!  <https://www.facebook.com/duttonconsulting/>*
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 4:42 PM Rich at tnr via Hidden-discuss <
> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
>
>> Time for another review of how HT works for you each.
>>
>> A long discussion always leads to people dropping off, many of whom
>> forget this defeats the purpose of having more people to help, at the cost
>> of a few uninteresting emails.  We tried FB and Linkedin a while back,
>> while little interest, given how time goes it could be 10 years.
>> We also get few additional members so there are clearly not much PR
>> happening.
>>
>> What you may not know, here is a summary of members.
>> Invalid:     2429  (means email addresses that bounced)
>> No mail:    501   (members who dropped off)
>> Valid:        2429
>>
>> Personally I'm not in favor of FB although we do own
>> https://www.facebook.com/Hidden-tech-271876579588753
>> (it is currently hidden)
>>
>> I have been looking for alternatives and found a quite a number of
>> options:
>> This is one of the more interesting because it will run on a standard
>> apache/php server : https://friendi.ca/
>>
>> There are more here: http://www.hidden-tech.net/social-media-ideas/
>> <https://friendi.ca/>
>> I am wondering how many would use any of these.
>> Let start with the general idea and we can narrow to options if there is
>> interest.
>>
>> --
>> Rich Roth
>> CEO TnR Global
>>
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> Rich Roth
> CEO TnR Global
>
> Bio and personal blog: http://rizbang.com
> Building the really big sites:      http://www.tnrglobal.com
> Small/Soho business in the PV:        http://www.hidden-tech.net
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