Yeah. I think we're going to go with "Soapbox Races" for now. Seems safer, though I'd rather use something like "DIY Cart Derby" or anything simple that could catch on. I think the "Derby" part is more important. You already have the following derbies, so another type of derby makes sense... * Soap Box Derby * Pin Box Derby * Kentucky Derby And "DIY Cart" really is what the event is about. Maybe "Maker's Cart Derby" Thanks, Mik --- Mik Muller, president Montague WebWorks 239-R Main Street, Greenfield, MA 413-320-5336 http://MontagueWebWorks.com Powered by ROCKETFUSION On 2/24/2020 9:06 AM, Karl Hakkarainen wrote: > The difference is that the trademark applies to "Soap Box" Derby. > Because trademarks applications apply to exact words and marks, the > space does matter. > That said, one of the things that gets IP lawyers involved is when > there is likelihood of confusion between trademarks. Using the > phrase "Soapbox Derby" could make a reasonable person believe that the > derby is affiliated with the "Soap Box Derby," a mark owned > by International Soap Box Derby, Inc. > This is a pretty good summary of the "likelihood of confusion" issue: > https://ipmetrics.net/likelihoodofconfusion.html > Again, I am not a lawyer, but I would avoid using Soapbox Derby in an > event. The risk is small, but the impact could be big. > ./kh > > On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 11:28 AM Michael Muller via Hidden-discuss > <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > <mailto:hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>> wrote: > > Hey all, > > I'm looking to see if I can use the term "soapbox derby" for some > upcoming events, and am a little confused by my search results. > > Using the US Patent and Trademark Office website, I find no > results for that exact phrase: > > * http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=tess&state=4807:ntmvtq.1.1 > > But on another USPTO page, I do find a hit: > > * https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=87034942&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch > > And, using other websites, I find all kinds of hits and misses: > > * https://www.trademarkengine.com/free-trademark-search/trademark-search > * https://app.trademarknow.com/free-trademark-search?q=registry%3A%60us%60%20registry%3A%60eu%60%20mark%3A%60soapbox%20derby%60 > * https://www.corpnet.com/trademarks/free-search/ > > What's the best way to make sure, and what's your experience with > searching and filing trademarks? > > Thanks, > > Mik > > > -- > Mik Muller, president > Montague WebWorks > 413-320-5336 > http://MontagueWebWorks.com > Powered by ROCKETFUSION > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > <mailto:Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech > Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.hidden-tech.net/pipermail/hidden-discuss/attachments/20200224/d0e06a8b/attachment.html>