[Hidden-tech] Mac OS question

PeopleFirst Tech zach at peoplefirst.tech
Sat Nov 9 23:10:52 UTC 2019 

Since this topic is the main subject of so much of our services these days,
I wanted to add some things to what others have mentioned:

   - A rollback / downgrade from a current MacOS to an earlier one is not
   an easy one, particularly since Time Machine and Migration Assistant from
   the newer OS won't support downgrading. It's a manual process.
   - If you have a pristine and full backup *made with the previous OS*,
   you *may* be able to erase and install the desired OS onto your boot
   volume (typically your internal drive), then use the Migration Assistant in
   that circumstance.
   - If it's been some time since the upgrade, then *using a third volume*, you
   can manually install the older MacOS onto it, migrate your data manually
   from your backup onto the third volume, designate it as your boot drive to
   ensure everything's working well, then finally erasing your target volume
   (typically your internal drive) and cloning the working 3rd volume back
   onto your boot drive. Suggested apps to use are Carbon Copy Cloner and
   ChronoSync.
   - 32-bit apps notwithstanding, Macs with rotational hard drives suffer
   performance-wise under Mojave and Catalina. This would be an opportune time
   to upgrade to a solid state drive. Your computer will run faster than it
   ever did before, and SSDs are actually quite affordable nowadays. It's far
   and away the most common service we perform. For a more in-depth analysis
   of why the APFS file system (introduced in High Sierra for SSDs, for HDDs
   starting with Mojave) performs so poorly on rotational drives,
check out this
   article
   <https://bombich.com/blog/2019/09/12/analysis-apfs-enumeration-performance-on-rotational-hard-drives>
   .

So why did Apple do this? There are some rather esoteric advantages to the
new format, but it was far from necessary to impose it on lower end Macs.
The bottom line is their bottom line: they sell more computers if an OS
upgrade makes yours slower. It's downright shameful.


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On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 5:12 PM Robert Heller via Hidden-discuss <
hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:

> At Sat, 9 Nov 2019 10:36:39 -0500 Rebeca Schiller <msrschiller at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
>
> > I'm new here and this is my first post/reply. I considered rolling back
> to
> > Mojave but as a member mentioned it is a major PITA. I used to have Adobe
> > CS4 as well, but I found that Affinity Photo and Publisher to be quite as
> > good as PhotoShop and InDesign. For the two apps the cost is $100.
> Cheaper
> > than an Adobe subscription. And for PDFs, I use PDF expert-purchased on
> > sale from Mariner Software Deals.
>
> There is also GIMP and Inkscape, both open source *free* replacements for
> PhotoShop and Illistrator.
>
>
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Rebeca Schiller
> > Founder
> > Plain Speaking Communications
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> >
> >
> >
> > > On Nov 9, 2019, at 9:24 AM, Cheryl Handsaker via Hidden-discuss <
> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Jon,
> > >
> > > As Erik mentioned, the latest Mac OS (Catalina) is out and this will
> no longer support any 32 bit applications. You may buy yourself some time
> by rolling back the OS but within a year or so you will need to upgrade
> anyway if the Adobe Suite is still your thing moving forward.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Cheryl
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/8/19 7:47 PM, Erik Jonsberg via Hidden-discuss wrote:
> > >> Hi John,
> > >>
> > >> Apple is phasing out support for 32 bit applications. Adobe has
> dropped support for all CS4 apps. MacOS is now at version 10.15 (Catalina).
> CS4 apps were designed to run on versions 10.5.8 or 10.6.
> > >>
> > >> You could try rolling back your OS. Hopefully you made a full backup
> on Time Machine before you did the upgrade. If not, you might be out of
> luck. As of High Sierra, MacOS uses a new case sensitive file system called
> APFS. So you can’t just reinstall an older OS because your hard drive has
> been reformatted to APFS.
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> > >>> On Nov 8, 2019, at 4:42 PM, Jonathan Mirin via Hidden-discuss <
> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net <mailto:
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> > >>> Dear Hidden-Techers,
> > >>> After updating to the mojave OS, I have been unable to use certain
> software (notably indesign and final cut pro). I am considering
> "downgrading" to a previous operating system so that I can continue to use
> these programs without re-buying them or starting a monthly subscription.
> Does anyone have experience with this or have a recommendation for which OS
> to revert back to? Other workarounds? Our version of indesign is CS4 (2009)
> and works fine for our needs.
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