<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Since this topic is the main subject of so much of our services these days, I wanted to add some things to what others have mentioned: <br><ul><li>A rollback / downgrade from a current MacOS to an earlier one is not an easy one, particularly since Time Machine and Migration Assistant from the newer OS won't support downgrading. It's a manual process.<br></li><li>If you have a pristine and full backup <u>made with the previous OS</u>, you <u>may</u> be able to erase and install the desired OS onto your boot volume (typically your internal drive), then use the Migration Assistant in that circumstance.</li><li>If it's been some time since the upgrade, then <u>using a third volume</u>, you can manually install the older MacOS onto it, migrate your data manually from your backup onto the third volume, designate it as your boot drive to ensure everything's working well, then finally erasing your target volume (typically your internal drive) and cloning the working 3rd volume back onto your boot drive. Suggested apps to use are Carbon Copy Cloner and ChronoSync.</li><li>32-bit apps notwithstanding, Macs with rotational hard drives suffer performance-wise under Mojave and Catalina. This would be an opportune time to upgrade to a solid state drive. Your computer will run faster than it ever did before, and SSDs are actually quite affordable nowadays. It's far and away the most common service we perform. For a more in-depth analysis of why the APFS file system (introduced in High Sierra for SSDs, for HDDs starting with Mojave) performs so poorly on rotational drives, check out <a href="https://bombich.com/blog/2019/09/12/analysis-apfs-enumeration-performance-on-rotational-hard-drives">this article</a>.</li></ul><div>So why did Apple do this? There are some rather esoteric advantages to the new format, but it was far from necessary to impose it on lower end Macs. The bottom line is their bottom line: they sell more computers if an OS upgrade makes yours slower. It's downright shameful.</div><div><br></div><div><p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:Helvetica;color:rgb(122,122,122);min-height:14px"><br><span style="-webkit-font-kerning: none;"></span></p>
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> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Hi, <br>
> <br>
<br>
> I'm new here and this is my first post/reply. I considered rolling back to<br>
> Mojave but as a member mentioned it is a major PITA. I used to have Adobe<br>
> CS4 as well, but I found that Affinity Photo and Publisher to be quite as<br>
> good as PhotoShop and InDesign. For the two apps the cost is $100. Cheaper<br>
> than an Adobe subscription. And for PDFs, I use PDF expert-purchased on<br>
> sale from Mariner Software Deals. <br>
<br>
There is also GIMP and Inkscape, both open source *free* replacements for <br>
PhotoShop and Illistrator.<br>
<br>
<br>
> <br>
> Best, <br>
> <br>
> Rebeca Schiller<br>
> Founder <br>
> Plain Speaking Communications<br>
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> > On Nov 9, 2019, at 9:24 AM, Cheryl Handsaker via Hidden-discuss <<a href="mailto:hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net" target="_blank">hidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> > <br>
> > Hi Jon, <br>
> > <br>
> > As Erik mentioned, the latest Mac OS (Catalina) is out and this will no longer support any 32 bit applications. You may buy yourself some time by rolling back the OS but within a year or so you will need to upgrade anyway if the Adobe Suite is still your thing moving forward. <br>
> > <br>
> > Best, <br>
> > Cheryl<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > On 11/8/19 7:47 PM, Erik Jonsberg via Hidden-discuss wrote:<br>
> >> Hi John,<br>
> >> <br>
> >> Apple is phasing out support for 32 bit applications. Adobe has dropped support for all CS4 apps. MacOS is now at version 10.15 (Catalina). CS4 apps were designed to run on versions 10.5.8 or 10.6. <br>
> >> <br>
> >> You could try rolling back your OS. Hopefully you made a full backup on Time Machine before you did the upgrade. If not, you might be out of luck. As of High Sierra, MacOS uses a new case sensitive file system called APFS. So you can’t just reinstall an older OS because your hard drive has been reformatted to APFS.<br>
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