[Hidden-tech] List changes

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Mon Mar 26 23:18:04 EDT 2018


There is a setting, at least with Mailman >= 2.1.16, where the From: header is
hacked to be something like '"Personal Name via List Name
<list-name at list-domain>' and the Reply-To: header containing the poster's name
and address. Reply-All goes to all of From:+To:+Cc:, and Reply-to-Sender goes
to the Reply-To: address. This allows off-list replies with out having to
"manually" hack the To: header (eg copying-and-pasting the address from
elsewhere in the message, like the sig or something). That is how I have set
up the lists at Deepwoods Software (mailman.deepsoft.com) and I set this up
some time ago, since having the From: be something other than the list is a
failure for Yahoo and Microsoft based mail servers (Yahoo now serves aol.com
and netscape.com, and Microsoft serves hotmail.com, outlook.com, live.com). A
list serve *cannot* now handle posts from these addressses without mangling
the From: header -- Yahoo and Microsoft now reject messages with From: headers
with their domains thst don't directly originate from their servers. 

Also this setting allows at the human readable part of the From: header to 
contain the *name* of the poster and not something "anonymous" like just the 
list name.



At Tue, 27 Mar 2018 02:44:32 +0000 hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net wrote:

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> My guess is this will fill up a list with a lot of chatter directed at one
> person. I know that I send a lot more private responses then public ones,
> because many of them would simply not be of interest to most of the people
> on your list. It will be interesting to see how this works out.
> 
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 9:50 PM <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
> 
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> > This is just to warn HT list community that we are trying a setting change.
> >
> > With major email providers (like Gmail, Yahoo, etc) enforcing SPF settings,
> > the previous list setting left the From address of each email as that of
> > the
> > poster -- which, since the email is now coming from the HT list, is
> > valid any more,
> > per SPF setting.
> >
> > Hence the list settings are being changed to remove From address and
> > change Reply-to
> > to the list email.
> >
> > You might need to put your own address in your SIG, esp for off list
> > replies.
> >
> > SO let's see how this works.
> >
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