[Hidden-tech] List changes

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Tue Mar 27 08:34:13 EDT 2018


This comment (by Robert Heller) looks like the best lead to explore.

I just checked and the current version is older then he mentions and 
there is a newer version.

SO expect to see some test emails that might lead to a solution.

Rich/listmaster


On 3/26/2018 11:18 PM, hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net wrote:
> There is a setting, at least with Mailman >= 2.1.16, where the From: header is
> hacked to be something like '"Personal Name via List Name
> <list-name at list-domain>' and the Reply-To: header containing the poster's name
> and address. Reply-All goes to all of From:+To:+Cc:, and Reply-to-Sender goes
> to the Reply-To: address. This allows off-list replies with out having to
> "manually" hack the To: header (eg copying-and-pasting the address from
> elsewhere in the message, like the sig or something). That is how I have set
> up the lists at Deepwoods Software (mailman.deepsoft.com) and I set this up
> some time ago, since having the From: be something other than the list is a
> failure for Yahoo and Microsoft based mail servers (Yahoo now serves aol.com
> and netscape.com, and Microsoft serves hotmail.com, outlook.com, live.com). A
> list serve *cannot* now handle posts from these addressses without mangling
> the From: header -- Yahoo and Microsoft now reject messages with From: headers
> with their domains thst don't directly originate from their servers.
>
> Also this setting allows at the human readable part of the From: header to
> contain the *name* of the poster and not something "anonymous" like just the
> list name.
>
>
>
> At Tue, 27 Mar 2018 02:44:32 +0000 hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> My guess is this will fill up a list with a lot of chatter directed at one
>> person. I know that I send a lot more private responses then public ones,
>> because many of them would simply not be of interest to most of the people
>> on your list. It will be interesting to see how this works out.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 9:50 PM <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:
>>
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>>> This is just to warn HT list community that we are trying a setting change.
>>>
>>> With major email providers (like Gmail, Yahoo, etc) enforcing SPF settings,
>>> the previous list setting left the From address of each email as that of
>>> the
>>> poster -- which, since the email is now coming from the HT list, is
>>> valid any more,
>>> per SPF setting.
>>>
>>> Hence the list settings are being changed to remove From address and
>>> change Reply-to
>>> to the list email.
>>>
>>> You might need to put your own address in your SIG, esp for off list
>>> replies.
>>>
>>> SO let's see how this works.
>>>
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