[Hidden-tech] * * * Who are non-profits accountable to? * * *

[Ira Bryck]

We are all brainstorming legal limits for a non profit, but don’t know the situation; or the position of the person who is frustrated.

If the problem is poor leadership, or mission creep, or bad branding, the solution may not be to have the organization reported to the state or fed.

Maybe a softer, more appropriate solution is a retreat, or some other way to explore “where we’re at, who we are, where we’re heading”

And also, I’m curious why (at least from the point of view of the person who brought this up), the board doesn’t seem to care. What kind of board is it? A working board? Are they doing it for the resume item? Is there group think?

Maybe triage is called for, before calling higher authorities.

Ira





From: Kristi <krystyobolyte at gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 11:25 AM
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Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] * * * Who are non-profits accountable to? * * *

The Public Charities Division of the Massachusetts Attorney General's Office has oversight responsibility for charitable non-profits here.  The main website for the Public Charities Division is at http://www.mass.gov/ago/doing-business-in-massachusetts/public-charities-or-not-for-profits/

They are very helpful, give them a call and they will be happy to guide you with your issues.

This form, from their website  may be helpful:

https://www.eform.ago.state.ma.us/ago_eforms/forms/char_ecomplaint.action


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On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 12:36 AM, Town Websites <townwebsites at gmail.com<mailto:townwebsites at gmail.com>> wrote:
State regulates charitable solicitation, and is where the rubber meets the road, depending on the state’s regulations.

If it is a small, mostly local non-profit that you want to succeed, I’d approach officers or write a letter to the board first and illustrate to them how they are failing to fulfill their bylaws and what trouble that can cause for them with the state.   Boards and officers don’t want to have to deal with the state regulators, such as having their solicitation permits revoked, and complaints can cause them serious problems.     They should listen.

Charlie


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Ditto what Ira Bryck wrote. I suppose state tax regulators could also be involved.

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On Sep 6, 2017, at 5:42 PM, Ira Bryck <ira at fambizpv.com<mailto:ira at fambizpv.com>> wrote:
In the end, a 501c3 answers to the IRS and federal government. If they don’t follow the bylaws, they could easily lose their status, and die instantly.

From: <hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net<mailto:hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net>> on behalf of Deborah Chandler <debchandler411 at gmail.com<mailto:debchandler411 at gmail.com>>
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Subject: [Hidden-tech] * * * Who are non-profits accountable to? * * *

Dear HTers,

If a 501c3 is not following their own bylaws and there is mounting need for grievance to be heard, and the board refuses to deal with any issues, what is the overseeing entity to which someone can speak? In other words, who does a non-profit answer to?

Feel free to write on or off group. But I will keep the identity of the org and further details private for now.

Thanks,
Deb



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