[Hidden-tech] * * * Who are non-profits accountable to? * * *

[Annamarie Pluhar]

I will add - having just applied for a 501(c)(3) status that a nonprofit 
must have a board of at least three members. If they don't have that....

On 7 Sep 2017, at 11:59, Ira Bryck wrote:

> We are all brainstorming legal limits for a non profit, but don’t 
> know the situation; or the position of the person who is frustrated.
>
> If the problem is poor leadership, or mission creep, or bad branding, 
> the solution may not be to have the organization reported to the state 
> or fed.
>
> Maybe a softer, more appropriate solution is a retreat, or some other 
> way to explore “where we’re at, who we are, where we’re 
> heading”
>
> And also, I’m curious why (at least from the point of view of the 
> person who brought this up), the board doesn’t seem to care. What 
> kind of board is it? A working board? Are they doing it for the resume 
> item? Is there group think?
>
> Maybe triage is called for, before calling higher authorities.
>
> Ira
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Kristi <krystyobolyte at gmail.com>
> Date: Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 11:25 AM
> To: Town Websites <townwebsites at gmail.com>
> Cc: Andrew Bellak <Andrew at stakeholderscapital.com>, Ira Bryck 
> <ira at fambizpv.com>, Hidden tech list 
> <Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] * * * Who are non-profits accountable to? * 
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>
> The Public Charities Division of the Massachusetts Attorney General's 
> Office has oversight responsibility for charitable non-profits here.  
> The main website for the Public Charities Division is at 
> http://www.mass.gov/ago/doing-business-in-massachusetts/public-charities-or-not-for-profits/
>
> They are very helpful, give them a call and they will be happy to 
> guide you with your issues.
>
> This form, from their website  may be helpful:
>
> https://www.eform.ago.state.ma.us/ago_eforms/forms/char_ecomplaint.action
>
>
> Kristi A. Bodin
> Montague, MA
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> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 12:36 AM, Town Websites 
> <townwebsites at gmail.com<mailto:townwebsites at gmail.com>> wrote:
> State regulates charitable solicitation, and is where the rubber meets 
> the road, depending on the state’s regulations.
>
> If it is a small, mostly local non-profit that you want to succeed, 
> I’d approach officers or write a letter to the board first and 
> illustrate to them how they are failing to fulfill their bylaws and 
> what trouble that can cause for them with the state.   Boards and 
> officers don’t want to have to deal with the state regulators, such 
> as having their solicitation permits revoked, and complaints can cause 
> them serious problems.     They should listen.
>
> Charlie
>
>
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> Ditto what Ira Bryck wrote. I suppose state tax regulators could also 
> be involved.
>
> -ab
>
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> On Sep 6, 2017, at 5:42 PM, Ira Bryck 
> <ira at fambizpv.com<mailto:ira at fambizpv.com>> wrote:
> In the end, a 501c3 answers to the IRS and federal government. If they 
> don’t follow the bylaws, they could easily lose their status, and 
> die instantly.
>
> From: 
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> on behalf of Deborah Chandler 
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> Date: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 5:40 PM
> To: Hidden tech list 
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> Subject: [Hidden-tech] * * * Who are non-profits accountable to? * * *
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> Dear HTers,
>
> If a 501c3 is not following their own bylaws and there is mounting 
> need for grievance to be heard, and the board refuses to deal with any 
> issues, what is the overseeing entity to which someone can speak? In 
> other words, who does a non-profit answer to?
>
> Feel free to write on or off group. But I will keep the identity of 
> the org and further details private for now.
>
> Thanks,
> Deb
>
>
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