[Hidden-tech] Question Regarding Consulting

[Christine Dutton]

Thanks, Glenn! I just saw this with another organization. They had staff,
consultants and affiliates on their roster.

On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Glenn Johnson <mrglenn2u at gmail.com> wrote:

> I work as an affiliate with the Interaction Institute for Social Change
> <http://interactioninstitute.org>. We affiliates are employees, filling
> out timesheets for the hours worked. Let me know if you have more questions
> about how it works, Christine.
>
> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 9:31 AM, Christine Dutton <cgdutton7 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> These are exactly some of the things I've been thinking. We will finalize
>> our decision after seeking legal advisement. Thank you!
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Don Lesser <dlesser at ptraining.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have always found the language of “not closely supervised” as a
>>> standard for contractors to be stupid. If I hire a contractor to rebuild a
>>> bathroom or teach a particular class or to program a specific module, I
>>> have defined the job. I don’t want a new living room, a different class, or
>>> a phone app instead of an SQL database. So I am telling the contractor what
>>> to do which seems in conflict with the rules. I don’t tell a carpenter
>>> which hammer to use or how to install a stud. I do tell a trainer what
>>> materials to use, which examples to use, and my standards for professional
>>> behavior. I do tell a consultant to use the development platform the client
>>> uses since no client will, for example, allow us to use MS Access instead
>>> of Crystal Reports, which they use for all other reporting.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That said, informally, if you hire a contractor, train them in your
>>> materials, and then let them teach it, it seems you have enough of a
>>> hands-off relationship for a 1099. Most of the contracting agencies I know
>>> of, however, have gone to a W2 without benefits because it protects them.
>>> The exception is if the contractor has a corporation. (Not sure about LLCs,
>>> partnerships, etc.) In this case, the agencies are OK paying the
>>> corporation and letting the contractor take care of taxes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Another potential issue is that all contractors are required to have
>>> Workman’s Comp insurance for themselves. As a corporation, I have been
>>> required to pay for Workman’s Comp insurance for all my contractors just as
>>> though they were employees. Only one contractor I know of actually has WC
>>> insurance. I am not addressing telling untruths to your insurance agency.
>>> That is between you and them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Decide what will let you sleep better and check with your accountant to
>>> be sure.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Don Lesser
>>>
>>> Pioneer Training, Inc.
>>>
>>> 139B Damon Road, Ste 8
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=139B+Damon+Road,+Ste+8+Northampton,+MA+01060+(413&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>
>>> Northampton, MA 01060
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=139B+Damon+Road,+Ste+8+Northampton,+MA+01060+(413&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>
>>> (413) 387-1040
>>>
>>> dlesser at ptraining.com
>>>
>>> www.ptraining.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net [mailto:
>>> hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net] *On Behalf Of *Christine
>>> Dutton
>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 20, 2017 7:50 AM
>>> *To:* Christine Dutton <cgdutton7 at gmail.com>; Hidden-Tech Listserv <
>>> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
>>> *Subject:* [Hidden-tech] Question Regarding Consulting
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Hidden Tech Folks!
>>>
>>> I have a question regarding consulting status with organizations. I have
>>> a client who is forming their business with a focus on delivering diversity
>>> workshops. The client would like to work with consultants, but the
>>> consultants will be required to train on workshop delivery. Beyond the
>>> training, the trainers will not be closely supervised. Please let me know
>>> if you have worked as a consultant for an organization with this type of
>>> arrangement. It would be great if you could share the name of the
>>> organization you were working with. My goal is to ensure that the
>>> consultancy arrangement is designed within legal requirements.
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Christine
>>>
>>
>>
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