[Hidden-tech] Electricity rates

[Daniel Belmont]

Thank you all for you input !  I'm going to call several providers to see
if I can get a lower rate ...

Dan

On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Jonathan Mirin <jonathan at ptco.org> wrote:

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> Hi Daniel,
> You and others might be interested in an excellent documentary about the
> international roll-out of "smart" meters called "Take Back Your Power
> <http://www.takebackyourpower.net/>" which describes/predicts a different
> source of increased electric rates related to the "smart grid" which the
> Mass Dept. of Public Utilities ordered all MA electric companies to get on
> board with in June.
> National Grid has been running a smart meter pilot program in Worcester
> over the last year which has received significant criticism on health,
> security and privacy
> <http://nomasssmartmeters.wordpress.com/national-grid-and-smart-meter-philosophy/>
> fronts. Northeast Utilities (WMECO/NSTAR) stated there was "no rational
> basis" for implementing smart meters - but that was before the Dept. of
> Public Utilities mandated it.
> Here is a link to the Illinois Attorney General's editorial in the Chicago
> Tribune when her state was faced with the same prospect in 2011:
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> http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-06-21/opinion/ct-oped-0621-madigan-20110621_1_smart-grid-ameren-comed
> I am happy to circulate the Take Back Your Power DVD to interested parties
> (streaming also an option).
> Best wishes, Jonathan
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> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Seth Fischer <seth at woodpelletprice.com>
> wrote:
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>> You are correct.. It's just the Energy part of the bill that's going up a
>> lot, not the distribution costs/services.
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>> Also, most of the inexpensive rates have disappeared as the Energy
>> providers are going to have to pay large amounts for energy as well.
>> Regardless of source (green sources, nuclear, gas, etc.), rates are all
>> tied together. The rates Robert Referenced are no longer available.
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>> With Natural Gas rates going up so much, Oil has become a cheaper option
>> for power plants that can burn it on cold days.
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>> Seth
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>> On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 10:26 PM, Scott Reed <sreed at avacoda.com> wrote:
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>>> As I understand it, only the generation portion of the bill is going up
>>> since that's dependent on fuel costs. Is that correct?
>>>
>>> On 12/7/2014 4:11 PM, Robert Heller wrote:
>>> > At Sun, 7 Dec 2014 14:15:26 -0500 Daniel Belmont <dbelmont2 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > MIME-Version: 1.0
>>> > Hello All --
>>> >
>>> >     As of November usage National Grid has doubled their service rates.
>>> > I knew an increase was coming but I didn't know it was that much.
>>> >
>>> >    Are there other electricity providers that have (hopefully
>>> significantly)
>>> > lower rates ?
>>> > You don't have a choice about the *delivery* end -- National Grid owns
>>> the
>>> > delivery infrastructure (eg the wires between you and the various power
>>> > generation facilities). You DO have choices as to *supply* providers.
>>> Verde
>>> > Energy USA MASS LLC is what *I* have and the supply price seems
>>> reasonable at
>>> > .0999/KWH.  I believe it is all 'green' energy sources (eg wind,
>>> solar, and
>>> > hydro).
>>> >
>>> > >From my Electric bill:
>>> >
>>> > Verde Energy USA MASS LLC
>>> > 101 Merrit 7
>>> > Second Floor
>>> > Norwalk, CT 06851
>>> > 800-388-3862
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> Thanks,
>>> >> Dan Belmont
>>> >>
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