[Hidden-tech] Electricity rates

[Ronald Blechner]

All suppliers in New England are going to be hit by the fuel spike sooner
or later. We just simply don't have enough generation in the Winter when
gas is reserved for heating before electricity, and 50% of our fuel mix is
gas. If you get a better rate, take note of when the rate is guaranteed
until, and put it on your calendar to shop again before it's up.
On Dec 9, 2014 7:31 AM, "Daniel Belmont" <dbelmont2 at gmail.com> wrote:

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> Thank you all for you input !  I'm going to call several providers to see
> if I can get a lower rate ...
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> Dan
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> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Jonathan Mirin <jonathan at ptco.org> wrote:
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>> Hi Daniel,
>> You and others might be interested in an excellent documentary about the
>> international roll-out of "smart" meters called "Take Back Your Power
>> <http://www.takebackyourpower.net/>" which describes/predicts a
>> different source of increased electric rates related to the "smart grid"
>> which the Mass Dept. of Public Utilities ordered all MA electric companies
>> to get on board with in June.
>> National Grid has been running a smart meter pilot program in Worcester
>> over the last year which has received significant criticism on health,
>> security and privacy
>> <http://nomasssmartmeters.wordpress.com/national-grid-and-smart-meter-philosophy/>
>> fronts. Northeast Utilities (WMECO/NSTAR) stated there was "no rational
>> basis" for implementing smart meters - but that was before the Dept. of
>> Public Utilities mandated it.
>> Here is a link to the Illinois Attorney General's editorial in the
>> Chicago Tribune when her state was faced with the same prospect in 2011:
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>> http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-06-21/opinion/ct-oped-0621-madigan-20110621_1_smart-grid-ameren-comed
>> I am happy to circulate the Take Back Your Power DVD to interested
>> parties (streaming also an option).
>> Best wishes, Jonathan
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>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Seth Fischer <seth at woodpelletprice.com>
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>>> You are correct.. It's just the Energy part of the bill that's going up
>>> a lot, not the distribution costs/services.
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>>> Also, most of the inexpensive rates have disappeared as the Energy
>>> providers are going to have to pay large amounts for energy as well.
>>> Regardless of source (green sources, nuclear, gas, etc.), rates are all
>>> tied together. The rates Robert Referenced are no longer available.
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>>> With Natural Gas rates going up so much, Oil has become a cheaper option
>>> for power plants that can burn it on cold days.
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>>> Seth
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>>> On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 10:26 PM, Scott Reed <sreed at avacoda.com> wrote:
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>>>> As I understand it, only the generation portion of the bill is going up
>>>> since that's dependent on fuel costs. Is that correct?
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>>>> On 12/7/2014 4:11 PM, Robert Heller wrote:
>>>> > At Sun, 7 Dec 2014 14:15:26 -0500 Daniel Belmont <dbelmont2 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
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>>>> > Hello All --
>>>> >
>>>> >     As of November usage National Grid has doubled their service
>>>> rates.
>>>> > I knew an increase was coming but I didn't know it was that much.
>>>> >
>>>> >    Are there other electricity providers that have (hopefully
>>>> significantly)
>>>> > lower rates ?
>>>> > You don't have a choice about the *delivery* end -- National Grid
>>>> owns the
>>>> > delivery infrastructure (eg the wires between you and the various
>>>> power
>>>> > generation facilities). You DO have choices as to *supply* providers.
>>>> Verde
>>>> > Energy USA MASS LLC is what *I* have and the supply price seems
>>>> reasonable at
>>>> > .0999/KWH.  I believe it is all 'green' energy sources (eg wind,
>>>> solar, and
>>>> > hydro).
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>>>> > >From my Electric bill:
>>>> >
>>>> > Verde Energy USA MASS LLC
>>>> > 101 Merrit 7
>>>> > Second Floor
>>>> > Norwalk, CT 06851
>>>> > 800-388-3862
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >> Thanks,
>>>> >> Dan Belmont
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