[Hidden-tech] Thanks to all those great Web designers - curious about the new generation/work expectations

William Sweet wsweet at crocker.com
Wed Mar 10 14:09:11 EST 2010


And yet, it gives hope for those of us who are heading into the field later
in life. I'm just starting to learn in my 40s, changing careers, and that
post made my day. *shrug*

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I agree.

And it's sad for me to hear that experience of 15-20 years doesn't count 
for much in web designing - I'm a software developer, not a web designer. 
But still, it's sad to hear that experience doesn't count for much in that 
field, to some.

It is something that I, a thirty something, have been bothered by for a 
while. Most companies want cheap, and they get what they pay.  If, 
perhaps, a college grad has as much knowledge as I do, in my field (and 
I'm guessing that some the top notch students might), then there's a very 
good chance they haven't learned exactly how and when to apply it yet. I 
imagine thats the same in any field.  With experience comes the knowledge 
of setting realistic timelines, staying organized, realizing when to use 
the latest and greatest technologies and when to stick with what you know 
is older, but functions just fine.  And design (software and web, I'm 
sure) only gets better in time -- you try something, it doesn't work, you 
move on, having gained that experience.

Anyways, just my .02,
-Bethany


On Tue, 9 Mar 2010, Tom Kopec wrote:

>   ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area.
>   ** If you did, we all thank you.
>
>
> Lynn, I'm glad you said it so tactfully..
>
> I (now at 52) have been working with startups for the past ten years,
> getting their products out the door.. all I add is making their ideas
> functional, reliable, desirable, manufacturable, supportable, and
> affordable.  Pretty much what I'd done for corporations for decades
before.
>
> baby-boomer != good old bloated hierarchy.. you can find unmotivated,
> underperforming people in every age group.
>
> just my $0.02.
>
> ...tom
>
> Lynn Nichols wrote:
>>    ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's
area.
>>    ** If you did, we all thank you.
>>
>>
>> Hey Nestor - I'm a 54 year old web designer (hence a baby boomer) who is
>> at the top of my game with the web and social networking (you can find
>> me on Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn and many other social sites and I
>> follow lots of others  through RSS feeds with iGoogle). And my business,
>> which I started in 1999, is busier than it has ever been. So please
>> don't put us boomers in the same box -- not all of us are ignorant of
>> the ways of younger folks (in fact, some of us are heavy into
>> cross-generational collaboration). I stay current with technology and
>> cultural changes to keep my business moving forward and keep me from
>> becoming a "dinosaur" at the top... ;)
>>
>> Lynn
>>
>>
>
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