And yet, it gives hope for those of us who are heading into the field later in life. I'm just starting to learn in my 40s, changing careers, and that post made my day. *shrug* -----Original Message----- From: hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net [mailto:hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net] On Behalf Of Bethany Seeger Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 9:12 AM To: Tom Kopec Cc: hidden-discuss Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Thanks to all those great Web designers - curious about the new generation/work expectations ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area. ** If you did, we all thank you. I agree. And it's sad for me to hear that experience of 15-20 years doesn't count for much in web designing - I'm a software developer, not a web designer. But still, it's sad to hear that experience doesn't count for much in that field, to some. It is something that I, a thirty something, have been bothered by for a while. Most companies want cheap, and they get what they pay. If, perhaps, a college grad has as much knowledge as I do, in my field (and I'm guessing that some the top notch students might), then there's a very good chance they haven't learned exactly how and when to apply it yet. I imagine thats the same in any field. With experience comes the knowledge of setting realistic timelines, staying organized, realizing when to use the latest and greatest technologies and when to stick with what you know is older, but functions just fine. And design (software and web, I'm sure) only gets better in time -- you try something, it doesn't work, you move on, having gained that experience. Anyways, just my .02, -Bethany On Tue, 9 Mar 2010, Tom Kopec wrote: > ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area. > ** If you did, we all thank you. > > > Lynn, I'm glad you said it so tactfully.. > > I (now at 52) have been working with startups for the past ten years, > getting their products out the door.. all I add is making their ideas > functional, reliable, desirable, manufacturable, supportable, and > affordable. Pretty much what I'd done for corporations for decades before. > > baby-boomer != good old bloated hierarchy.. you can find unmotivated, > underperforming people in every age group. > > just my $0.02. > > ...tom > > Lynn Nichols wrote: >> ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area. >> ** If you did, we all thank you. >> >> >> Hey Nestor - I'm a 54 year old web designer (hence a baby boomer) who is >> at the top of my game with the web and social networking (you can find >> me on Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn and many other social sites and I >> follow lots of others through RSS feeds with iGoogle). And my business, >> which I started in 1999, is busier than it has ever been. So please >> don't put us boomers in the same box -- not all of us are ignorant of >> the ways of younger folks (in fact, some of us are heavy into >> cross-generational collaboration). I stay current with technology and >> cultural changes to keep my business moving forward and keep me from >> becoming a "dinosaur" at the top... ;) >> >> Lynn >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > _______________________________________________ Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members page on the Hidden Tech Web site. http://www.hidden-tech.net/members __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4932 (20100310) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4932 (20100310) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com