I posted my response earlier, but it only went to Robin................. I agree with Duane - Apple isn't the only game in town, just like Microsoft isn't the only game in town. My beef with all things i-whatever is the weird exclusivity that comes with it. You can only use an iPod with iTunes (?!?). And iTunes is fond of content use restrictions of which i am totally opposed. I have used Creative and Sansa and liked them both and I can use any content I wish including taking files back off on different computer, like going between my laptop and my desktop. I've had a few friends have issues with iTunes and their 'Pods where they ended up having to create new profiles and erase the content on their iPods - again content control crap. My feeling is: "I bought the music (and yes, as a musician, I ACTUALLY buy my music/ downloads!!) I should be able to put it anywhere I please." My $.02. I will now step off my soapbox................... Any device that is non-apple and open use will be considerably less $$. Check out Creative. Good luck. Shawn Gundersen, CTS Principal Consultant Norseman AV Technology Design shawn at norsemanav.com 413-585-5745 > > On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Robin MacRostie > <rmacr at choreographicdesign.com <mailto:rmacr at choreographicdesign.com>> > wrote: > > > All my portable CD players are died. I need to make the leap > into Ipod. I say ipod, because it seems to be the industry > standard and I'm a mac person. .... > > > Hi Robin. Rather than answers, here's an assertion, a candidates, and > some more questions... > > Assertion: The Apple products aren't the only game in town. > Candidates: Creative's Zen (which I have) > or for higher-fi: Creative Zen X-Fi and some others > > Questions: > * Is a radio important or useful as part of the deal? > > and would you like to be able to commit a radio program you're > listening to to the player's memory? > * Is microphone recording something you'd like to be able to do? > > at what quality level, and with what degree of control? > > with an external microphone? > > And as far as memory capacity, what about models that allow you to > upgrade memory yourself by having a memory slot? > > --Duane Dale > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.hidden-tech.net/pipermail/hidden-discuss/attachments/20091217/ff8f1f78/attachment.html