Riuch wrote: >First off you have created at least 2 jobs, if you count yourself - >and maybe more if you count family members who 'help out' -- In my >case, as well as the 2 dozen or so people I've hired or have been >consultants on my projects, both my son and daughter have been >involved in businesses in a key area of responsibility -- either >their own or others. True enough. > >>I submit that people in my situation need reasonably priced >>creative marketing, not a bailout. >> >Now you are getting to the point I am making - we need to point the >various Gov't entities how they can be of help -- and to each other. >Please expand more and maybe one of the other HT members can help. Well, I'm actually someone who provides that to others. I've worked a few marketing miracles with little or no cash outlay, and I consult with others both on how to do traditional marketing very inexpensively and effectively, and also on how to take it to the next level with partnerships, marketing of expertise, etc. I'll share one success story from a client, and one from my own business. I had an 82-year-old woman come to me in June of 2008 wanting a major publisher. She came to me with a raw, unedited, and need-a-lot-of-work MS that she wanted turned into a finished published book six months later, in time for a Paramount Pictures movie tie-in with a December release. I explained that big publishers didn't work that way, but that I could produce her book in time. I met the deadline and produced a beautiful book, in both hardback and paper, AND got her connected with the director, AND wrote publicity materials. Most commercial publishers couldn't have done that timeframe, and she certainly couldn't have done it on her own. She was interviewed by CBS News and the New York Times, became an informal consultant to the movie, and has gone into a third printing less than a year since publication. Yes, she could have saved money doing it on her own, but she would have had a slap-dash project desperately in need of editing, and probably a very poor cover. My own story began when I filled an order for my $8.50 e-book on how to have fun cheaply. I noticed that the person ordering was an Internet marketing legend, and when I filled the order, I sent a quick note saying that I knew who he was and offering him a gratis copy of my book on ethical marketing. That led to an ongoing correspondence, an essay from me included in one of his books (no pay, but this is one time where paying in exposure actually worked out), and eventually, an out-of-the-blue offer to give me his contact info at John Wiley and Sons (major NYC publisher). That in turn led to a contract offer, and to me bringing in a celebrity co-author, and to the bet book I've ever done, Guerrilla Marketing Goes Green: Winning Strategies to Improve Your Profits and Your Planet (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson)--it'll be out next year, and I just set up a book launch at Broadside in Northampton, January 26, 7 pm. Robert Heller wrote: >Here is a thought: If your business fails, that *increases* the >joblessness (i.e. you are now unemployed), so while providing *some* >support for 'micro' business does not 'create' [new] jobs, it does keep >people employed [at existing jobs]. It is also not that these 'micro' >businesses are going to suck up large amounts of the available money. >Also: 'micro' businesses make use of the goods and services offered by >'small' (and 'large') businesses. Merely 'giving' a 'small' business >the cash to hire someone is somewhat useless, unless the new hire has >something 'productive' to do, and the 'something productive' could in >fact be selling a good or service to a 'micro' business. If the >'micro' business fails, the new hire has less to do and if enough >'micro' businesses fail, then there is not much point in hiring the new >hire in the first place, no matter how much cash is tossed at the >'small' business. The point of the stimulus is to stimulate business, >not to create meaningless jobs (eg relabling a 'welfare' check as a >'pay' check does not really stimulate business), it only really works >if the new jobs are actual jobs -- eg workers doing *productive* work. >To some extent, this productive work would only exist if there are >(healthy) micro businesses around to make use of the goods or services >provided by the new hire. True, and similar to Rich's point, above. > >Wondering: would 'reasonably priced creative marketing' be a service >offered by a 'small' business? I think it might make some sense to >'grease' the wheel at both ends. Or at least make sure the grease is >applied where it can do the most good. Yes, 'reasonably priced creative marketing' can certainly be offered by a small business. Most of the people I know in that space are either solopreneurs like me, or very small shops. In fact, I just sat in on a committee meeting today where we reviewed five bids for graphic arts marketing services (which is not the part that I do--I work much more on the text than the graphics, but I have graphics people I work with). I believe all but one of the bids were received from solopreneurs. -- _________________________________________________ Shel Horowitz - 413-586-2388/ shel at frugalfun.com -->Join the Business Ethics Pledge - Ten Years to Change the World, One Signature at a Time (please tell your friends) <http://www.business-ethics-pledge.org> Marketing consulting * copywriting * publishing assistance * speaking How to market ethically/effectively: http://www.frugalmarketing.com Ethics Blog: http://www.principledprofit.com/good-business-blog/ Books: http://www.frugalmarketing.com/shop.html _________________________________________________