summary so far - Re: [Hidden-tech] Constant Contact, iContact et al

[Seth Fischer]

Do any of the hosted services integrate with Joomla?

Do they deal with international sites (e.g., dutch version, french version,
etc.).

Thanks,

Seth

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Rich <rich at tnrglobal.com> wrote:

>  ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area.
>  ** If you did, we all thank you.
>
>
> I will add more weight to the 'use a service' comments: don't do it
>
> we are very techie and do run a number emailing services for clients (over
> 100,00 a day in industrial opt in lists)
> and I can tell you it takes quite a bit of staff time to make sure all the
> in/out+issues in today's email world
> are addressed.  Making sure our servers are not blocked is a daily effort
> and making sure the lists are
> kept clean takes many hours of both programming and, at some point, manual
> effort.
>
> To give you a simple example, we have a database base of well over 1000
> email bounce error
> messages in 14 or so languages just to recognize an email bounce - and that
> is after pre-coding
> the message so it's list source can be known -- then add dozens and dozens
> of inconsistent rules
> that a spam checker might use to mis-identify a proper email.
> Just try sending an email message from a industrial newsletter with a
> product from Xerox !
> Even this message will be blocked by some of you's spam blockers
>
> Let a service do it for you, they can justify doing all these right, even
> available software to
> run yourself rarely does all that is needed -- and that doesn't even
> include the server monitoring,
> we have had the HT list blocked by the likes of Comcast and Verizon
> repeatly.
>
> If you do a large volume of emailings (over 50K monthly) , do your home
> work and
> find a service that will do the custom work you might need.
>
> Rich
>
> -- And if anyone wants to talk to us about doing large emailings, email me
> off line.
>
>
> Jonathon Podolsky wrote:
>
>>
>> As always, it depends on your particular situations, such as number of
>> recipients, frequency of emails, and how you want to use it.
>>
>> I can see how implementing your own software solution could save money in
>> the long-run.  However, with all due respect to others who recommend that, I
>> wouldn't consider it unless you're a techie and have enough time or have
>> have very important custom needs. The 3rd party email services must have a
>> higher deliverability rate, since they work out problems with ISP's,
>> follow-up on spam reports, add to white lists, etc. Plus they work right
>> away, instead of loading your own software, troubleshooting if problems come
>> up etc.
>>
>>
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>
> Building the really big sites
>      http://www.tnrglobal.com
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