summary so far - Re: [Hidden-tech] Constant Contact, iContact et al

[Rich]

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Rich

Seth Fischer wrote:
>   
>
> Do any of the hosted services integrate with Joomla?
>
> Do they deal with international sites (e.g., dutch version, french 
> version, etc.).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Seth
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Rich <rich at tnrglobal.com 
> <mailto:rich at tnrglobal.com>> wrote:
>
>      ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the
>     member's area.
>      ** If you did, we all thank you.
>
>
>     I will add more weight to the 'use a service' comments: don't do it
>
>     we are very techie and do run a number emailing services for
>     clients (over 100,00 a day in industrial opt in lists)
>     and I can tell you it takes quite a bit of staff time to make sure
>     all the in/out+issues in today's email world
>     are addressed.  Making sure our servers are not blocked is a daily
>     effort and making sure the lists are
>     kept clean takes many hours of both programming and, at some
>     point, manual effort.
>
>     To give you a simple example, we have a database base of well over
>     1000 email bounce error
>     messages in 14 or so languages just to recognize an email bounce -
>     and that is after pre-coding
>     the message so it's list source can be known -- then add dozens
>     and dozens of inconsistent rules
>     that a spam checker might use to mis-identify a proper email.
>     Just try sending an email message from a industrial newsletter
>     with a product from Xerox !
>     Even this message will be blocked by some of you's spam blockers
>
>     Let a service do it for you, they can justify doing all these
>     right, even available software to
>     run yourself rarely does all that is needed -- and that doesn't
>     even include the server monitoring,
>     we have had the HT list blocked by the likes of Comcast and
>     Verizon repeatly.
>
>     If you do a large volume of emailings (over 50K monthly) , do your
>     home work and
>     find a service that will do the custom work you might need.
>
>     Rich
>
>     -- And if anyone wants to talk to us about doing large emailings,
>     email me off line.
>
>
>     Jonathon Podolsky wrote:
>
>          
>         As always, it depends on your particular situations, such as
>         number of recipients, frequency of emails, and how you want to
>         use it.
>
>         I can see how implementing your own software solution could
>         save money in the long-run.  However, with all due respect to
>         others who recommend that, I wouldn't consider it unless
>         you're a techie and have enough time or have have very
>         important custom needs. The 3rd party email services must have
>         a higher deliverability rate, since they work out problems
>         with ISP's, follow-up on spam reports, add to white lists,
>         etc. Plus they work right away, instead of loading your own
>         software, troubleshooting if problems come up etc.
>
>
>     -- 
>     Rich Roth
>     CEO TnR Global
>
>     Building the really big sites
>          http://www.tnrglobal.com
>
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