using a smartphone as laptop modem - Re: [Hidden-tech] Re: unlocking cell phones - how's Sprint for 3G 'roundthese parts?

Matthew S. Crocker matthew at corp.crocker.com
Tue Dec 30 11:37:10 EST 2008


>From my understanding the 'unlimited' data plan on cell phones is to cover data from the cell phone itself. Data through the cell phone to a laptop is not part of the plan and will be billed additional charges. 

-Matt 

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> Subject: using a smartphone as laptop modem - Re: [Hidden-tech] Re: unlocking cell phones - how's Sprint for 3G 'roundthese parts? 
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> ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area. ** If you did, we all thank you. 
> What's the deal with limits on using a smartphone as a laptop modem? There's something about the amount a data limit for mobile data using a smartphone vs. a wireless adapter connector for 'regular' computer data transmission? 
> 
> Because if someone has an unlimited smartphone data plan, it'd be great to use it as a mobile laptop modem even for limited use. 
> 
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On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Jeff Hobbs < jeffehobbs at gmail.com > wrote: 
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> If you're just in it for the Google phone, you may want to consider getting a contract-free developer version that you could use on whatever network you choose: 
> 
> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081207-google-introduces-developer-g1-phones.html 
> 
> (Not that you asked but: At this point, Android as a mobile platform has a lot of promise but it's still pretty rough -- I'd take a hard look at an iPhone as a mobile option as well.) 
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> ~Jeff 
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> 1. To keep records or not to keep... | CLARIFICATION | 
> (DAVID F. FARKAS) 
> 2. RE: unlocking cell phones - how's Sprint for 3G 'round these 
> parts? (Arlen Collins) 
> 3. Re: unlocking cell phones - how's Sprint for 3G 'roundthese 
> parts? ( ussailis at shaysnet.com ) 
> 4. Re: unlocking cell phones - how's Sprint for 3G 'round these 
> parts? (Chris Hoogendyk) 
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> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:30:39 -0500 
> From: "DAVID F. FARKAS" < david at farkas.com > 
> Subject: [Hidden-tech] To keep records or not to keep... | 
> CLARIFICATION | 
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> Hi folks... 
> 
> Thanx for all the ideas for HOW to keep records electronically rather 
> than on paper. Some of the ideas on work flow and storage were great! 
> I think I need to move to cloud computing for my CRM and apps so I 
> can streamline a lot of my report / record keeping process. 
> 
> BUT... my real dilemma is whether to keep most of the notes at all. I 
> ask clients for some photos and I use GoogleEarth pix for maps. But, 
> other than contact info and a summary of findings before and after 
> the work, I'm not sure why I need to keep all the scribbles from the 
> process. They would need to be scanned to be included in electronic records. 
> 
> UNLESS... there are legal, marketing or other reasons I'm not considering? 
> 
> Since my work is unusual, it is to my advantage to have not records. 
> Then nobody can challenge the process... which is esoteric and 
> confusing to most people. As a child of the McCarthy era and of our 
> litigious era, I'm wondering what advantage / disadvantages there are 
> in keeping fewer notes. I can't claim clinician, fiduciary, or legal 
> confidentiality either. 
> 
> Healers in indigenous cultures have clinics where they go from 
> patient to patient doing their work and take no notes at all. They 
> are not in the western world running a business... so I'm looking for 
> a balance. 
> 
> If any of this makes sense and/or illuminates flashes of insight... 
> please pass them along. If it does not... well, you see the problem, eh? 
> 
> Merry Everything and Happy Always! 
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> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:41:37 +0000 
> From: Arlen Collins < acollins at rxemedia.com > 
> Subject: RE: [Hidden-tech] unlocking cell phones - how's Sprint for 3G 
> 'round these parts? 
> To: < andrew at stakeholderscapital.com >, Hidden Tech 
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> The good news is that T-Mobile has a decent policy for unlocking phones. When I last checked, they required the phone be on an active plan for 3 months. My brother who lives in Indonesia half the year got them to do it immediately when he got his new phone, but he had been a long term customer. I also travel to Asia nd wanted the flexibility to install SIMs while there. I got a T-Mobile pay as you go quad-band phone. After 3 months they gave me the code. One thing you might want to try is going in and making their unlocking of the phone conditional on your signing up with T-Mobile. It is a competitive business. 
> 
> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 05:51:15 -0500 
> From: andrew at stakeholderscapital.com 
> To: Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net 
> CC: 
> Subject: [Hidden-tech] unlocking cell phones - how's Sprint for 3G 'round these parts? 
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> Dear HT, 
> 
> I would like to try the new T-Mobile Google phone. I plan to switch to T-Mobile in January from Verizon and get the phone with a 1 or 2 yr. contract. 
> 
> But this Verizon phone # is not my primary number, it's my wife's. 
> 
> 
> Therefore, I want to unlock the G-phone so I can use it with my other carrier, ATT. Both ATT & T-Mobile are GSM so I think compatibility should not be an issue. 
> 
> I have had a phone unlocked before. I used eBay to find a vendor but would rather do that locally, if possible. 
> 
> 
> Part two of the plan, is to maybe switch to Sprint from ATT in June 2009, when that plan expires, so I can get the $99 deal: unlimited voice, data, & text. 
> 
> Anybody use Sprint around here? 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Andrew 
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> From: " ussailis at shaysnet.com " < ussailis at shaysnet.com > 
> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] unlocking cell phones - how's Sprint for 3G 
> 'roundthese parts? 
> To: site-hidden-tech at sherbang.com , andrew at stakeholderscapital.com , 
> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net 
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> Another issue is where you plan to use a T-Mobile phone. Not everywhere in 
> the Valley, and not at all in some hilltowns. 
> 
> I have a T-Mobile phone and battle with the problem. 
> 
> Jim Ussailis 
> 
> jim at nationalwireless.com 
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> 
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> Original Message: 
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> From: Brian Johnson site-hidden-tech at sherbang.com 
> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:18:48 -0500 
> To: andrew at stakeholderscapital.com , Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net 
> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] unlocking cell phones - how's Sprint for 3G 
> 'roundthese parts? 
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> andrew bellak wrote: 
> > Dear HT, 
> > 
> > 
> > I would like to try the new T-Mobile Google phone. I plan to switch 
> > to T-Mobile in January from Verizon and get the phone with a 1 or 2 
> > yr. contract. 
> > 
> > But this Verizon phone # is not my primary number, it's my wife's. 
> > 
> > Therefore, I want to unlock the G-phone so I can use it with my other 
> > carrier, ATT. Both ATT & T-Mobile are GSM so I think compatibility 
> > should not be an issue. 
> > 
> > I have had a phone unlocked before. I used eBay to find a vendor but 
> > would rather do that locally, if possible. 
> > 
> > Part two of the plan, is to maybe switch to Sprint from ATT in June 
> > 2009, when that plan expires, so I can get the $99 deal: unlimited 
> > voice, data, & text. 
> > 
> > Anybody use Sprint around here? 
> 
> T-Mobile and AT&T use different 3G frequencies. As a result the G1 will 
> work on AT&T but will _not_ do 3G (high speed data). 
> 
> There is another Google Android phone about to be released in January 
> that will work on AT&T's 3G network, but not T-Mobile's. It's the Kogan 
> Agora 
> http://www.kogan.com.au/shop/android-powered-kogan-agora-3G-mobile-phone/ 
> This phone is sold unlocked so you wont have to bother with that part. 
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> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:17:12 -0500 
> From: Chris Hoogendyk < hoogendyk at bio.umass.edu > 
> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] unlocking cell phones - how's Sprint for 3G 
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> If you want to be socially conscious, go with Credo (used to be Working 
> Assets Wireless). They use the sprint network. They currently have a 
> deal where you can get a Solio solar recharger along with a phone with a 
> 2 year contract. We have used them for years, and everyone in my family 
> has their own cell phone line. Every year you can participate in the 
> voting to determine what causes profits get contributed to. 
> 
> Nobody has total coverage, but I've been happy with ours. Ours drops off 
> when we go down the hill south of the main shopping areas of 
> Northampton. Picks back up if we are high in the building or get back up 
> on the main drag. I think the towers are probably on north King Street. 
> I actually got coverage once on a southwest facing slope of a mountain 
> along the N.H. border of Maine. We were coming over the top after a 
> couple of days of backpacking, dead tired, and decided to try and call 
> our favorite B&B to see if they had a room available. It worked. 
> Leverette is sort of like that. You have to be on the right bend of the 
> road for any cell phone to work. 
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