[Hidden-tech] Does this sound like a good computer deal?

Frank Aronson fsaronson at comcast.net
Thu Jan 18 13:34:53 EST 2007


I'm going to throw a little cold water on this discussion, with 
apologies to Mac Apostles...

I like the Macs.  They're darned good machines.  But each platform has 
its pluses and minuses and you have to decide if that's the way to go.  
/Most/ Mac users are very happy with what they have (as well they should 
be) and /most/ Windows users that I've seen who have tried to switch 
over get infuriated by some of the Mac interface that claim to make it 
"easier" for the end user experience.  The fact is, they're both valid 
platforms and you just have to be comfortable with what you need to work 
on.  Frankly, I think that the claims made by Apple are somewhat 
overblown, just as are the claims made by Microsoft every time they 
introduce a new operating system.  In the end - and I know this is 
sacrilegious to the Mac Apostles - these are simply machines.  They are 
tools to get you from point A to point Z without trying to get in your 
way as you're doing it.

All that being said, check out the top of the line Mac Mini.  It tends 
to be light on disk space (A question for the Mac Apostles:  Why would 
that be?!) but you can run both Mac OS X and Windows XP (not sure of 
Vista yet) on it.

A good reason to stick with Windows:  Office 2007.  I've got a trial 
copy on my laptop right now and while it's going to take some getting 
used to, I think it is a huge improvement over the current status quo.  
They just may have gotten it right, although I don't know if they are 
releasing a Mac version right off the bat.

Be well,
Frank

B. Kimo Lee wrote:
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>
> Hi Amy, et al,
>
> Nice seeing you last night at the chamber thing...
>
> I'm with Tom, I vote Mac -- for so many reasons!
>
> You saw the NY Times botnet article. We're doomed! ;-) I vote we ax 
> Eastern Europe and Brazil from our Internet! China too!
> All kidding aside. It's a serious issue.
> ---
> I bet your current machine still meets your needs. You didn't mention 
> why you felt the need to upgrade? It's still a basically a zippy 
> machine for a writer. If it's performance-related, maybe you need to 
> do some "housecleaning", i.e., malware or defrag stuff, or adjust your 
> software firewall settings?
>
> Jim's right about most applications not being able to take advantage 
> of the dual core capabilities. So, with your Pentium 4 machine, you're 
> still in a really good place -- again, for a writer.
>
> Get the ram (find out what your max ram capability is to make sure 
> you're not topped out) from here:
> http://www.crucial.com/
> Btw, is that Antec a custom-built machine?
>
> How full is your hard drive? If not more than say 80% full, you're 
> okay for a while. You can get larger capacity hard drives (internal) 
> for under a $100. I don't have time to help you with all the 
> diagnostic stuff you might need, but if you bring your box over with 
> the ram module and the drive, I'll swap in the new module, drive, and 
> transfer the data if you sing me a song, well, let's make that a 
> sandwich? lol!
>
> Save your big dollars for a zippy MacBook. You'll love it, you writer, 
> you! Go demo one at Yes Computers. It's you, baby! You'll be able to 
> sync it up with your fab new iPhone that you'll get this summer! And 
> when your daughter graduates and goes to college, you can video skype 
> with her everyday since it has a built-in iSight camera.
>
> Best,
> Kimo
>
> On Jan 17, 2007, at 3:59 PM, A - Z International wrote:
>
>>   ** The author of this post was a Good Dobee.
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>>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I've got the following stuff on my current PC and an offer (below) 
>> for a new machine.  Please advise whether you think this is a good deal.
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>> Amy Zuckerman
>> Hidden-Tech Founder
>>
>> AZ's ACI PC includes:
>>
>>> Antec Midtower w\ front USB
>>> Intel D850mv Pentium 4 Motherboard
>>> P4-2.4ghz\400mhz fsb
>>> 512mb Pc800 rambus
>>> 48X CDRW
>>> 64mb geforce
>>> 40 gb hd
>>> 3.5" Floppy
>>> 104 key keyboard
>>> MS Optical Wheelmouse
>>> Windows XP Pro
>>> lan,sound onboard
>>> sbs250 speakers
>>> 56k USR Hardware Modem
>>>
>>> The first slow down is ram . Now we try to not let anything leave 
>>> with less than 1gb.
>>> Multitaskers should have 2gb.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2nd slow down hd 5400 rpm good for 4 yrs ago but now they are 
>>> typically 7200 rpm
>>> They also typically have much more memory on the hd itself old 1mb 
>>> new 8mb or 16mb
>>>
>>> 3rd slow down processor is 400mhz fsb. There is no upgrade for.
>>>
>>> To do an upgrade on this unit of an addl 1024mb would be around $600 
>>> and not worthwhile.
>> THE PROPOSAL:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> A holiday special of $1299.00 gets you the following
>>>
>>> Antec case nsk4400
>>> Intel mb p5b-vm core 2 duo MB
>>> Intel core 2 duo e6400 processor
>>> 2gb 800mhz ddr2 ( other brands handicap their systems with slower ram)
>>> 300gb Sata Hd 16mb cache 7200 rpm
>>> msi rx1300 video card 256mb
>>> xp pro w\vista upgrade coupon ( costs $10 at time of redemption)
>>> Liteon dvdrw
>>>
>>> Free transfer of data,programs,and modem
>>> Does not include monitor,keyboard,mouse,spkrs
>>>
>>> 19" lcd $289, k and mouse $35, spks in lcd
>>>
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