Ed, Most live auctioneers are paid go-betweens, just like eBay. Just like eBay, the seller sets a reserve price, and if the price isn't met, the auctioneer will announce it after the bidding and the item will be unsold. Ebay was purposefully set up to allow for a faithful reproduction of this system, although they have added other options that are not as practical to manage in a live situation. Anyway, my point is that your categorization of a "live" auctioneer deciding to refuse to sell an item as being different from the eBay reserve model is seriously flawed. In a live setting reserve prices are also set in advance and it is generally assumed that all items at a live auction have a reserve price. The auctioneer will not (in most cases at least, there may be exceptions I don't know about) do the deciding. As for my knowledge of this, I did have some initial talks about doing web development for a "live" auction house a few years ago, and although they didn't really go anywhere, we did talk about the live vs. eBay models so I could better understand their business. -Dan -----Original Message----- From: hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net [mailto:hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net] On Behalf Of Edbride-PR Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 1:27 PM To: 'Hidden-Tech' Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] eBay Newbie Questions ** The author of this post was a Good Dobee. ** You too can help the group ** Fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's area. ** If you did, we all thank you. A key difference, however, is that a 'live' auctioneer can refuse to sell an item, even if there have been several bids but none has met the perceived value (or "real" minimum). As others have pointed out, if you have set a Reserve on eBay and someome matches or exceeds it, you are obligated to sell it, regardless of whether the price met your expectations. So, setting a low reserve may entice people to bid, but there's an inherent risk. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Fried" <dan at creativeconstructs.com> Actually, the reserve price mechanism eBay uses mirrors the time-tested system used in live auctions. It may seem silly, but lower starting prices get more people interested and bidding against each other. Statistically, once people enter bidding, they are likely to continue past a price that they may not have chosen to enter at. -Dan _______________________________________________ Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members page on the Hidden Tech Web site. http://www.hidden-tech.net/members