[Hidden-tech] Future of Dreamweaver and Flash; Move on Microsoft?

B. Kimo Lee bklee at azurelink.com
Tue May 3 11:59:49 EDT 2005


Hi Adell,

Thanks for your comments! Yes, we've come a long way from the days of  
wax and rubber cement for paste-ups haven't we? Now it seems like those  
old Mac Pluses and SE30'S were part of the dinosaur age too. And yet,  
there is good 'ole Adobe, plugging away through it all! Imagine a world  
without Adobe, impossible to conceive of it!

Remember Adobe's clunky Pagemill web tool? And when Adobe bought out  
Livemotion and made it into GoLive, the crappy code it spat out was the  
reason I made the move to Dreamweaver in the first place. So now that  
it's about to come around full circle (for me), I hope they let the  
Macromedia people guide the process and not the Adobe GoLive people.

I've never been a Pagemaker user, which in my experience had more of a  
foothold out West. I've had InDesign since version one, but never use  
it, since I've been trained on Quark. It's really feeling like there  
will be a shake-up in the apps I use during the coming year or two if I  
want to continue on some kind of an upgrade path. I can't speak about  
the Adobe support system, since I've not really had any problems to  
speak of with their software, but they have been solid innovator over  
the years and I hope the acquisition of Macromedia will not slow their  
ability to improve their products or create new ones.

Best regards,

Kimo Lee



On Tuesday, May 3, 2005, at 10:24 AM, Adell Donaghue wrote:
>>
>
> I've been using Adobe products since 1988 and have continued to be  
> impressed
> with Adobe's superior customer service which is, I believe, one of the
> hallmarks of a successful company. As a fledgling Art Director in the  
> late
> 1980's, I recall a frantic telephone call I made from a pay phone (no  
> cell
> phones in those days) to the Adobe type department looking for a  
> specific
> typeface I needed for a design project. I was put through to the head  
> of
> typography and he spent a good amount of time with me and was  
> enormously
> helpful. I believe Adobe has maintained much of this customer friendly
> attitude over the years.
>
> As a designer, I lived through the purchase of Pagemaker by Adobe and  
> found
> it remarkable that Adobe continued to support this clearly inferior  
> layout
> product (vs.Quark) in large part because of Pagemaker's base in the  
> academic
> community. Over the past few years, Adobe has developed a superior  
> layout
> program (InDesign) and yet has managed to continue to support it  
> Pagemaker
> base, allowing a phase in of Pagemaker into InDesign.
>
> Adobe is customer and market savvy enough to recognize the obvious  
> strength
> of Dreamweaver over Go-live. I think it will use it's  
> Pagemaker/InDesign
> success as a model to grow Dreamweaver into an even stronger web  
> development
> tool.
>
> Best,
>
> Adell Donaghue
>
>

> On 4/30/05 1:04 PM, "B. Kimo Lee" <bklee at azurelink.com> wrote:
>
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>> Hi Techies,
>>
>> Just wondered if anybody heard any scoops on last weeks acquisition of
>> Macromedia by Adobe? Perhaps some of you with prediction skills care  
>> to
>> prognosticate?
>>
>> Here's some links to eweek articles:
>>
>> "Will Adobe Macromedia Deal Kill Competition?"
>> http://www.eweek.com/article2/
>> 0,1759,1789283,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03119TX1K0000594
>>
>> "Adobe-Macromedia Deal Causes Jitters"
>> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1788475,00.asp
>>
>> For myself, I wonder whether the two products -- Dreamweaver and  
>> GoLive
>> -- will be allowed to co-exist or will be combined. That really creeps
>> me out, since Dreamweaver MX is one of my bread-and-butter apps. I
>> don't see LiveMotion as a true contender to outlive Flash MX. And I
>> believe Illustrator will continue to exist. What also intrigues me is
>> that this might be Adobe's bold move into the enterprise document
>> market -- Microsoft's traditional domain.
>>
>> I'd be interested in any other opinions out there.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Kimo Lee
>>

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