[Hidden-tech] Try Crocker (instead of Verizon)!

[matthew at the-spa.com]

there needs to be a better name for it because reselling is when you
JUST sell a dsl service that is 100% done by verizon, when you get an
atm connection from verizon and then use your own hardware and
bandwidth is far different than just selling their service.

nobody can run wire to someone's house but having your equipment at
the local phone company office and then your own bandwidth is as
close as you can get to doing it all yourself.

matthew

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>Subject: RE: [Hidden-tech] Try Crocker (instead of Verizon)!
>Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 18:51:48 +0100
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>>We use Crocker and it works great.  No problems, no complaints.  I
>thought that it was a trade secret that they resold Verizon, but I
>guess that cat's out of the bag.  We used to, for some odd reason,
>get Crocker's shocking monthly bill from Verizon for their DSL resell
>customers embedded in our own phone bill.
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>>From: matthew at the-spa.com [mailto:matthew at the-spa.com]
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>>as i said in my original message, crocker is the only local isp i
>>know of who is connected directly to verizon, what that means is
>they
>>have i believe its an atm connection, to verizon so if you use them
>>for dsl you get THEIR network, their bandwidth. with anyone else you
>>get verizons watered down dsl.
>>
>>i used to resell verizon dsl and the bandwidth came from verizon so
>i
>>had no control over it. it costs a fortune to get hooked up directly
>>but then they have control over the bandwidth and the quality of the
>>internet you get.
>>
>>when i sold my isp crocker was the only one i even considered. i've
>>known matt crocker for years and i have seen their setup in
>>springfield it is very impressive. i believe they have 3 t3's of
>>bandwidth.
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>>matthew
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>>>---- Original Message ----
>>>From: goldman at policydevelopment.org
>>>To: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
>>>Subject: RE: [Hidden-tech] Try Crocker (instead of Verizon)!
>>>Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 11:29:57 -0400
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>>>>I certainly can't say that speeds would be any different, but
>>>customer
>>>>service and repair times would be better with Crocker DSL. Crocker
>>>can
>>>>provide DSL anywhere Verizon can. Crocker is local, they care
>about
>>>>good service for the Valley and working to provide broadband where
>>>>Verizon refuses to (like here in 95% of Shutesbury and 100% of
>>>>Leverett). Matt Crocker is a wonderfully accessible guy.
>>>>
>>>>In addition to running a nonprofit org from my home
>>>>(www.policydevelopment.org), I am the chair of the official
>>>>Shutesbury-Leverett Broadband Committee
>>>(http://slbc.westernmass.us). I
>>>>also sit on the steering committee of the Pioneer Valley Connect
>>>>(www.pioneervalleyconnect.org). I have learned a lot about telecom
>>>>infrastructure in the Valley, and one key take away is that
>anything
>>>we
>>>>can do to support Crocker (and any alternatives to Verizon) is in
>>>all
>>>>of our best interests.
>>>>
>>>>Hope that sorta relates.
>>>>
>>>>Aron Goldman
>>>>
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