[Hidden-tech] Question about ChatGPT and machine learning

Viet Trang viet.q.trang at gmail.com
Fri Mar 10 17:32:37 UTC 2023


>> ChatGPT is a conversation engine, not a search engine.

This is true but just means it cannot provide real time search results to
you (unless you're using it from Bing). It does not mean it cannot provide
links to pages it has already processed. Though I would be surprised if any
of the links work (again, unless you're using Bing's ChatGPT). This is why
I suggest searching on other engines. Publisher archives may be helpful too.

>> It is designed to provide plausible responses based on similarity of
questions and
answers to existing material on the internet, without attempting to
correlate its responses with actual facts.

This isn't true. ChatGPT may make mistakes, but OpenAI cares about the
quality of responses and designed ChatGPT with the aim of being as accurate
and helpful as possible, to benefit humanity (and to make a more profitable
product). It may make something up but it should not if you tell it not to,
and it should be honest about how its response was generated if asked. The
problem here is that the pages it has linked to unfortunately have been
taken down and it may be difficult to find copies.

On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 9:57 PM Alan Frank via Hidden-discuss <
hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:

> ChatGPT is a conversation engine, not a search engine.  It is designed
> to provide plausible responses based on similarity of questions and
> answers to existing material on the internet, without attempting to
> correlate its responses with actual facts.  Pretty much every social
> media space I follow has had multiple posts from people pointing out
> ridiculous factual errors from ChatGPT.
>
> --Alan
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [Hidden-tech] Question about ChatGPT and machine learning
> Date: 2023-03-09 15:29
>  From: Marcia Yudkin via Hidden-discuss
> <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
> To: "Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net"
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> This question is for anyone who understands how the machine learning in
> ChatGPT works.
>
> I've been finding ChatGPT useful for summarizing information that is
> widely dispersed around the web, such as questions like "what are the
> most popular objections to X?"  However, the other day for a blog post I
> was writing I asked it "What are some sources on the relationship of X
> to Y?"  It gave me four sources of information, including the article
> title, where it was published and who wrote it.
>
> This looked great, especially since I recognized two of the author names
> as authorities on X.  However, when I then did a Google search, I could
> not track down any of the four articles, either by title, author or
> place of publication.  I tried both in Google and in Bing.  Zilch!
>
> Could ChatGPT have totally made up these sources?  If so, how does that
> work?
>
> I am baffled about the explanation of this.  One of the publications
> involved was Psychology Today, so we are not talking about obscure
> corners of the Internet or sites that would have disappeared recently.
>
> Thanks for any insights.
>
> Marcia Yudkin
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