Hey Don, Agree with what you're saying and obviously I haven't completely given up attempting to get work, at least, because I do love what I do despite the heartache I've received and gone through. That said, it's also hindered me as a designer due to having to work as much as I have to make ends meet and finding little time to practice. But I hear you and I thank you for your words. You're definitely someone I wished I had spoken to years ago, honestly, given your background and history. Appreciate your words and will be taking them to heart and definitely into consideration. Denise <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Fri, Sep 2, 2022 at 1:43 PM Aaron E-J via Hidden-discuss < hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > If you are looking for film/video jobs, there are quite a few Facebook > groups that have active postings. Most of it I think is for film crews, > logistics, actors, producers, ex., though. > > Aaron E-J > The Other Realmhttp://otherrealm.orghttp://theotherrealm.org (Blog) > > On 2022-09-01 8:59 PM, Donald M Stevens via Hidden-discuss wrote: > > Good Evening, Denise, Val & all, > > > > It is difficult to get started or even survive as an entrepreneur…. > > It can be very challenging, disappointing, down right crushing at times… > > However, isn’t that why we do it? Don’t we all know that we are really, > really good at something, reasonably priced, good value….. but it seems no > one knows about us? > > > > I have worked for folks, worked for myself, began businesses, took > businesses over, been laid off, fired, quit…..etc….. > > But I know I am a “Serial Entrepreneur” …. > > > > My two cents is/are > > If you love what you do, keep doing it, find a way, try something > different, let people know what you can do, donate some of your talent > where it might be noticed by paying customers, network, etc… > > > > And in the words of Jimmy V > > > > “don’t give up, don’t ever give up!!!!” > > > > It is totally worth it…. > > > > Thanks! > > Don Stevens > > > > *TFI Technologies* > > *“we are here to help you….”* > > 329 Pease Road > > East Longmeadow, MA 01028 > > Office: 413.308.4511 > > Cell / Text: 860.614.4153 > > Email: dstevens at tryandfindit.com > > LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/don-stevens-504aa6b > > Skype: tryandfindit > > > > *From:* Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net> > <hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net> *On Behalf Of *Denise > Batalha via Hidden-discuss > *Sent:* Thursday, September 1, 2022 10:28 AM > *To:* Shel Horowitz <shel at principledprofit.com> > <shel at principledprofit.com> > *Cc:* Hidden-Tech Listserv <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> > <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> > *Subject:* Re: [Hidden-tech] where to look for creative freelancer gig > postings > > > > I'm speaking from my own experience and it's not exactly positive, so I'm > prefacing with that in case people are in the mood to "flame", since the > internet has become just so toxic as of late. > > > > I've been trying to get (more) work for so many years. Keep in mind, > should you be any sort of creative (I'm a graphic designer, primarily, but > more of a "jack of all trades" kind of digital creator, so to speak), > freelancing could possibly hurt your chances of finding work in a company, > should freelancing be your "supplemental", or in my case a way of gaining > experience whilst sharpening/updating your skills. Too many companies seek > someone who has worked in a design house, as if to say freelancers don't > have any experience with customers/clientele. Personally, I've given up > trying to find any semblance of freelance work. I've tried Fiverr, but then > you're competing with literally designers of the world who would be willing > to do the same exact work for much less (perhaps cost of living is much > cheaper on their side of the planet??). I've tried finding mentors, I've > asked people in the business (literally dog eat dog world in the creative > side of business, when you'd think otherwise) who might as well just tell > me to "google it". I honestly believed when I was younger the creative > world was much more accepting and helpful and learned the exact opposite. > Content creators of other sides of creativity (bakers, pastry chefs, > crafters, etc) are much more helpful than digital designers. I might as > well get the finger. This has been an ongoing battle for me for YEARS on > top of the attempt at getting my foot in the door after I graduated back in > 2008 (which I finally got one with Johnny Rockets, but that lasted 8 months > thanks to the pandemic, which hurt many businesses). > > > > Sorry to sound so negative, but just want to be honest of what others > could potentially experience. I've been attempting to steer youngins in a > STEM path and away from digital creative fields, only due to the simple > fact that it is so saturated and many of these jobs are also outsourced; > and as aforementioned, you're competing with the planet, as opposed to > others in your geographical area. I was told about this email group in > hopes of gaining employment, and it didn't help me much, either, though > I've volunteered bidding for a logo in the past, and have offered insight > in other areas, so it's not a total "waste of time". Plus, I've contributed > more in the past than I do today. > > > > I personally wish I was more helpful and wished I knew of areas in which > freelancers could obtain more work, but as I stated, it depends on where > you seek to find work. > > > > Again, speaking of my experience, not necessarily as a warning, but more > of a "heads up: this could possibly happen". > > > > Denise > > > > On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 10:07 AM Shel Horowitz via Hidden-discuss < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > > In addition to general networking and skill-posting sites for freelancers, > don't neglect communities of interest within the genre they are trying to > serve. When people participate actively and use an e-mail sig that > highlights their strengths without being pushy, many conversations open up. > > > > It also helps to really go after a niche rather than just everyone with a > need. For exaple, in my copywriting and marketing consulting, I focus on > two areas: 1) businesses with a commitment to social change and > environmental healing, and 2) people i the book world. > > > > Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur" > > ________________________________________________ > > Contact me to bake in profitability while addressing hunger, > > poverty, war, and catastrophic climate change > > * First business ever to be Green America Gold Certified > > * Inducted into the National Environmental Hall of Fame > > * Certified speaker: International Platform Association > > https://goingbeyondsustainability.com > > mailto:shel at greenandprofitable.com 413-586-2388 > > Award-winning, best-selling author of 10 books. > > Latest: Guerrilla Marketing to Heal the World > > (co-authored with Jay Conrad Levinson) > > > > Watch my TEDx Talk, > > "Impossible is a Dare: Business for a Better World" > > http://www.ted.com/tedx/events/11809 > > (move your mouse to "event videos") > > _________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 11:41 AM Val Nelson via Hidden-discuss < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > > Hi HT community, > > > > I know many creative freelancers who want to get their new businesses more > off the ground. So I am wondering what places you would look for finding > gigs, such as for video editing gigs. Any websites coming to mind that seem > legit? Do you have a favorite? > > > > They are doing networking and such, and I'm just wondering about > additional places to look for gigs online. > > > > In the meantime, if you have a need for an experienced video editor (for > small biz videos), I can get you in touch with someone good. I also know > some great illustrators and copywriters. > > > > Thank you! > > Val > > *______________________________* > *Val Nelson* > > THE BLACK SWAN COACH > > career ~ business ~ *impact * > > > > ValNelson.com <https://valnelson.com/> > > > New: Transitioning to Self-employment (course) > <https://valnelson.com/courses/bridge-to-self-employment/> > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.netHidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site.http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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