[Hidden-tech] Alternative to SiteGround?

Rob Laporte rob at 2disc.com
Sun Mar 21 15:45:05 UTC 2021 

I anticipated years ago what has proven true: dedicated Pros like Mik and https://nubbernaut.com/ (and I'm sure others on this list and in western MA), are required these days. Rarely do webmaster generalists have the deep tech background and dedicated time to keep up with web hosting risks these days.


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Montague WebWorks had been using a cPanel host from 1999 til about 2004 when we switched to a VPS, then around 2010 to a slice of a cloud server. About 2015 we moved to CloudMailStore.com, based out of Michigan, leasing a Google-grade host server (12 quad cores, 192GB RAM, 1.6TB RAID HD), with four Virtual Machines, each connected via internal virtual network. Cost is about $800/mo. I know the trend these days is to lease smaller, cheaper boxes, and there are plenty of colo hosts out there that do that, but I wanted the speed of the internal virtual network and the portability of backed-up VMs under my control. To wit, last July the host server was hit by ransomware, and with the nightly VM backups, we were up and running 14 hours later as if nothing had happened. Screw those bastards.

We have two separate machines for transactional email (virtualized) and bulk email (practically a Pentium).

Having a VM gives you maximum flexibility to do anything you want, wherever you want, including setting up a cPanel and offering hosting to others. And if the VM is backed up every night, you have no fear of ransomware or other major disasters.

Mik


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From: Rich via Hidden-discuss <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>
Sent: 3/17/21 9:28 PM
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Thanks Mik,

Actually there were 2 threads on the topic, discussing but not answering David's question:
And I've been meaning to expand on this because I am still looking for an answer.
Subjects:
            Hosting/Common logic after SiteGround"
            [Hidden-tech] Siteground does serious screwup of web sites

The discussion is at: http://lists.hidden-tech.net/pipermail/hidden-discuss/
Under Jan or Feb (view by thread)

The most common element is that hosting companies will all crater eventually as the market and technology change.
The most comprehensive answer was aimed at more 'serious' commercial sites that can justify.
       Rob Laporte explained that in details, although I don't quite agreed with some of the layers a quote he provides describes.

Also there were 2 lower end suggestions:
         hcoop.net - which is fascinating and might be a good answer if you have the technical skill and desire to mold it to your needs,
                     (I have the first and probably not the 2nd)
         Hostgator - suggest by Shel - on review their cost might be ok for a very few number of CMS sites (WP, Joomla, Drupal) Not for more complex needs.

Personally, I am drifting to the solution being a VPS setup and look at: hostinger.com
           ($12/mon for reasonably powerful vps but still researching - esp looking for experiences)

Anyone else with Sites hosting or VPS suggestions ?  personally I want an option under $15/mon (for VPS).

Stay well all
Rich


On 3/17/2021 5:39 PM, Michael Muller via Hidden-discuss wrote:
I think this was discussed in detail back in January of this year. If you keep old emails, check out the "Hosting/Common logic after SiteGround" discussion around January 18.

Mik


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Hi everyone,

  I've been a long time siteground customer for some of my web sites
(which are very low volume), but their prices lately went several
hundred fold up.  300 dollars to host a year with barely anything.  I'm
looking for alternatives.  I was a happy customer with them when they
were 6 to 7 dollars a month, but not where they are now.  Are there any
relatively cheap alternatives to Siteground?

Thanks a lot.

David


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