On (04/03/18 18:12), Jeremy Wise wrote: > Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2018 18:12:21 -0500 > From: Jeremy Wise <jeremywise at readingsuccesslab.com> > To: 'Rich Roth' <webmaster at hidden-tech.net>, 'Hidden-Tech Tech' > <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> > Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] How to remain connected when traveling to Europe > Reply-To: jeremywise at readingsuccesslab.com > > Thanks to everyone for their helpful suggestions! > > > > I use Verizon Wireless and they have a plan similar to what people have > described for ATT, T-Moble etc, tho getting that info wasn't easy. Aha! That's an important distinction. Besides the pricing and plan issues, there's a technical issue. Most of the plans mentioned in this thread are on carriers that use the GSM cellular system, which is ubiquitous in Europe. Verizon uses the CDMA cellular system, which is primarily available only in the US. In the popular tourist spots of Europe (London, Amsterdam, Berlin), some CDMA systems have been installed- so there is some access for a roaming Verizon phone, but it won't be as complete coverage as GSM. In the US, there are 4 carriers and 2 systems: AT&T GSM T-Mobile GSM Sprint CDMA Verison CDMA In Europe (and Asia except for Japan), all the different carriers use the GSM underlying system. And we're just talking about talking. The whole area of data services- 2G, 3G, 4G, 4G-LTE, etc, etc, gets even more twisted. So whatever plan you choose, ask carefully about the coverage map and what data services are included. Good luck! James > > > > Many thanks, Jeremy Wise > > > > From: hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net > [mailto:hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net] On Behalf Of Rich Roth > Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2018 6:05 PM > To: jeremywise at readingsuccesslab.com; Hidden-Tech Tech > <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> > Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] How to remain connected when traveling to Europe > > > > We've done a fair bit of traveling in the last few years. > > Our phones are on t-mobile and we just have to activate international > service, no extra charge on our plan. > > For ipads, we use AT&T and they have a monthly international service on the > pay as you go option, > I think it was $30/month -- although warning their north america is really > USA - does NOT include Canada, no idea about Mexico. > > As for as hotel access, now a days, most hotels everywhere provide free or