Aaron, This is a GREAT template to go by!! Denise On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 3:56 PM Aaron Taylor-Waldman < aaron at taylorwaldman.com> wrote: > The AIGA (American Institute of Graphic Arts) has made their stance clear > https://www.aiga.org/position-spec-work > > When it comes to work-for-hire, I offer these options for creative > services: > > - Paid work > - Pro bono (or volunteering) — for cause work only, and no more than > 20% of my annual work hours. > - Personal projects (The only person who gets 'free' work is me) > > Equity may be an option for some, sure—but 90% of the time you should take > the money. Unless you're a cofounder of a company, and/or the equity offer > is from a startup with a valuation and funding (not bootstrapping). > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 2:34 PM Denise Batalha via Hidden-discuss < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > >> Kris, >> >> I've always likened the idea of these skills being too easy to be paid >> their worth as being seen as simple as coloring. What I don't get is if >> they clearly see these skills as so simplified it requires little to no >> pay, why don't they just do it themselves? I am, by no means, implying that >> is the case here. Good/great designers cost money, and I completely >> understand the overwhelming weight of the costs any organization, or >> individual lacking the funds, can be. >> >> Denise >> >> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 2:05 PM kris badertscher via Hidden-discuss < >> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: >> >>> As a media and communications/graphic designer, I found this *contest* >>> to be incredibly disrespectful to the ever-expanding community of pioneer >>> valley creatives who so often have to go against their better judgement and >>> take work either pro bono (hoping that it leads to paid a gig), for barter, >>> or for slave-wage labor just in order to pay a bill. >>> >>> This cultivated western Massachusetts mentality of bargaining for free >>> or underpaid labor predominates in this region where creative workers are >>> consistently being taken advantage of because so few opportunities present >>> themselves. >>> >>> Whether it's photography, video, graphic design, or another skilled >>> creative endeavor, other professionals in the Valley seem to think that >>> these skills require nothing more than just a press of a button. Or maybe >>> they do know and understand that having a subscription to Adobe or >>> Microsoft products or other applications, plus equipment and training in >>> order to make their designs for clients are outrageously expensive and they >>> don't care. Because right, there's always the bounty of students to hire >>> willing to put up with unpaid labor early in their careers. >>> >>> This mindset hurts all of us. We all then have to accept underpaid labor >>> as an exploited community in order to survive, never mind *thrive*. >>> What results is that no one outside the creative community gets a sense of >>> what a project *actually* costs which repeats this unethical cycle. >>> >>> Living in the age of wanting something for (nearly) nothing is doing >>> everyone a disservice and my recommendation is to first research the market >>> and know how much a particular job costs. And please consider the cost- not >>> just of what you are offering in exchange for labor or products, but the >>> cost to all of us who live with the consequences of that mindset. >>> >>> Cheers, Kris >>> >>> sustainabilitydesigner.com >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 12:36 PM Rich at OTN via Hidden-discuss < >>> hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: >>> >>>> You do realize that that amounts for barely 4 hours of a reasonable >>>> wage for a graphic artist >>>> and that only goes to the winner -- really doesn't sound in line with >>>> your company name. >>>> >>>> I'd hope to see something more, maybe at least a percent of sales >>>> OR just hire an artist. >>>> >>>> Think about it. >>>> On 9/20/2019 6:37 AM, Jessica Gifford via Hidden-discuss wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> I'm running a design contest for the back and box of a customized deck >>>> of *Connection Cards*, which are used in a program that helps >>>> participants get to know new people, build social connections, and develop >>>> friendships. Each card has a question that participants answer as part of >>>> the program. There will be a $150 prize for the winning design. You >>>> may email jessica at growingwellness.life for entry guidelines. Please >>>> pass along to anyone who may be interested. >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> Jessica >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> Jessica Gifford, LICSW >>>> www.growingwellness.life >>>> 413-548-4688 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.netHidden-discuss@lists.hidden-tech.net >>>> >>>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >>>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site.http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>>> >>>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >>>> list. >>>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >>> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >>> >>> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion >>> list. >>> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >>> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >>> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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