Ha! Our replies came in at the same time, Todd. Are you still involved with the Graphic Artists Guild? Deb On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 1:56 PM Todd LeMieux <todd at toddlemieux.com> wrote: > Great replies, and I completely agree. > > I really haven’t seen this in any other industry outside of creative > services (designers, web developers, photographers, musicians, etc) > “contests” to get essentially free work (and usually underpaid, for the > “winner”, if there is any payment involved). It’s just plain wrong. > > Deb, your point is a valid comparison. Imagine having a similar contest > for bookkeeping services, or for legal representation? You get the point. > > Sincerely, > Todd > > ------------------- > > Todd M. LeMieux > 413.237.6869 > [Graphic Design + Creative Direction] > > Twitter <http://twitter.com/toddmlemieux> | LinkedIn > <https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddmlemieux/> | Facebook > <http://www.facebook.com/toddmlemieux> > > Good Design Will Prevail.™ <https://www.behance.net/toddlemieux> > > On September 26, 2019 at 1:43:29 PM, Deborah Chandler via Hidden-discuss ( > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net) wrote: > > Hi Jessica, > > I agree with Rich. If your business is a profit-making business which > offers services to help people thrive, then paying for graphic design > services are helping a qualified graphic designer to "thrive". > > What you have proposed is called "spec work", where you are only willing > to pay for a "winning" design. This spec work is frowned upon in the > graphic design industry. Imagine you sit down at a restaurant and you ask > them to serve you 6 different dishes, you try each one, and only pay for > the one you found tasty. You would never do that. Not many professions deal > with this issue the way creatives do. And the Graphic Artists Guild, among > others, speak up about it, have worked on Pricing and Ethical Guidelines > (PEGS) for just these types of issues, and support their members as they > adhere to these industry guidelines. > > You may be unaware of this issue, you may have seen other people do > contests like this and thought it was okay to do. But please be aware that > it is not accepted in our industry, and I for one, kindly request that you > choose to hire a qualified graphic designer and negotiate fees that pay > them a good rate for their good work. If you are not familiar with this > hiring process, how to choose a qualified designer, I am sure there are > many folks here who can help you out with that, and some will be willing to > quote on your project and provide trusted advice on various aspects of the > process through to completion. > > Best on this project, > Deb > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 8:27 AM Jessica Gifford via Hidden-discuss < > hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I'm running a design contest for the back and box of a customized deck >> of *Connection Cards*, which are used in a program that helps >> participants get to know new people, build social connections, and develop >> friendships. Each card has a question that participants answer as part of >> the program. There will be a $150 prize for the winning design. You may >> email jessica at growingwellness.life for entry guidelines. Please pass >> along to anyone who may be interested. >> >> Thanks! >> Jessica >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Jessica Gifford, LICSW >> www.growingwellness.life >> 413-548-4688 >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net >> Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net >> >> You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. >> If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members >> page on the Hidden Tech Web site. >> http://www.hidden-tech.net/members >> > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.hidden-tech.net/pipermail/hidden-discuss/attachments/20190926/da38d561/attachment.html>