[Hidden-tech] Gaia Host has gone AWOL; any advice?

Shel Horowitz shel at principledprofit.com
Wed May 1 01:46:10 UTC 2019


I once had a domain held hostage by a web host. This was in the early days
of the internet, and I simply bought a new domain and set up my copy of the
site. Obviously you give up the traffic, but maybe even if GoDaddy won't
re-register the domain to the client, maybe they would put a redirect on it.

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On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 8:08 PM Erik Amlee via Hidden-discuss <
hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> wrote:

> We also have some clients that have domains or services through GaiaHost,
> and last contact with them was late 2018 as well.
>
> It is a tricky situation - the client would need to prove ownership of the
> domain to facilitate a transfer to a different registrar, either with
> access to the domain account to provide a transfer code or listed as an
> Admin Contact on the WHOIS record. A website at the domain with
> corroborating business  information would not count (as the response from
> GoDaddy bears out).
>
> Yes Exactly provides managed WordPress and Drupal hosting and can
> facilitate the transfer of the domain, web and mail services.
>
> Erik Amlee
>
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>   1. Re: Gaia Host has gone AWOL; any advice? (Aaron E-J)
>   2. Re: Gaia Host has gone AWOL; any advice? (Rich Roth)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 19:29:08 -0400
> From: Aaron E-J <the at otherrealm.org>
> To: hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Gaia Host has gone AWOL; any advice?
> Message-ID: <221913c2-3d13-4986-132a-c217d3cb68eb at otherrealm.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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> Here is the WhoIs info for gaiahost.coop, it has a phone number and
> other contact info
> Domain Name: GAIAHOST.COOP
> Registry Domain ID: D7883428-CNIC
> Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.domains.coop
> Registrar URL:
> Updated Date: 2016-07-12T13:59:18.0Z
> Creation Date: 2004-08-11T10:22:09.0Z
> Registry Expiry Date: 2017-08-11T23:59:59.0Z
> Registrar: Domains.COOP
> Registrar IANA ID: 465
> Domain Status: ok https://icann.org/epp#ok
> Registry Registrant ID: C70227556-CNIC
> Registrant Name: Charles Strader Sweethill
> Registrant Organization: Gaia Host Collective, LLC
> Registrant Street: PO Box 622
> Registrant City: Greenfield
> Registrant State/Province: Massachusetts
> Registrant Postal Code: 01302
> Registrant Country: US
> Registrant Phone: +1.8006728060
> Registrant Fax: +00.0000000
> Registrant Email: online at gaiahost.coop
> Registry Admin ID: C70227556-CNIC
> Admin Name: Charles Strader Sweethill
> Admin Organization: Gaia Host Collective, LLC
> Admin Street: PO Box 622
> Admin City: Greenfield
> Admin State/Province: Massachusetts
> Admin Postal Code: 01302
> Admin Country: US
> Admin Phone: +1.8006728060
> Admin Fax: +00.0000000
> Admin Email: online at gaiahost.coop
> Registry Tech ID: C70227556-CNIC
> Tech Name: Charles Strader Sweethill
> Tech Organization: Gaia Host Collective, LLC
> Tech Street: PO Box 622
> Tech City: Greenfield
> Tech State/Province: Massachusetts
> Tech Postal Code: 01302
> Tech Country: US
> Tech Phone: +1.8006728060
> Tech Fax: +00.0000000
> Tech Email: online at gaiahost.coop
> Name Server: NS1.GAIAHOST.COOP
> Name Server: NS2.GAIAHOST.COOP
> Name Server: NS3.GAIAHOST.COOP
> Name Server: NS4.GAIAHOST.COOP
> DNSSEC: unsigned
> Registry Billing ID: C70227556-CNIC
> Billing Name: Charles Strader Sweethill
> Billing Organization: Gaia Host Collective, LLC
> Billing Street: PO Box 622
> Billing City: Greenfield
> Billing State/Province: Massachusetts
> Billing Postal Code: 01302
> Billing Country: US
> Billing Phone: +1.8006728060
> Billing Fax: +00.0000000
> Billing Email: online at gaiahost.coop
> Registrar Abuse Contact Email: violetta at domains.coop
> Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +44.1865403136
> URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form:
> https://www.icann.org/wicf/
>
> Last update of WHOIS database: 2017-07-13T06:35:55.0Z <<<
>
> For more information on Whois status codes, please visit
> https://icann.org/epp
> IMPORTANT NOTE: The format of WHOIS records changed on March 1, 2017.
> For more information, please visit:
> https://www.centralnic.com/company/news/2016/changes-to-whois
> This whois service is provided by CentralNic Ltd and only contains
> information pertaining to Internet domain names registered by our
> our customers. By using this service you are agreeing (1) not to use any
> information presented here for any purpose other than determining
> ownership of domain names, (2) not to store or reproduce this data in
> any way, (3) not to use any high-volume, automated, electronic processes
> to obtain data from this service. Abuse of this service is monitored and
> actions in contravention of these terms will result in being permanently
> blacklisted. All data is (c) CentralNic Ltd https://www.centralnic.com/
> Access to the whois service is rate limited. For more information, please
> see https://registrar-console.centralnic.com/pub/whois_guidance.
>
> Aaron E-J
> The Other Realm LLC
> http://otherrealm.org
> http://theotherrealm.org (Blog)
>
> On 2019-04-30 7:15 PM, Rich Roth via Hidden-discuss wrote:
>
>
> GoDaddy is copping out (as usual) -- I'd say check out the ICANN
> rules, they oversee the domain name process,
> not Gaia nor GoDaddy
>
> Look here: https://www.icann.org/registrants
>
> Does anyone have any leads on the Gaia Host people ??
>
> Rich
>
> On 4/30/2019 4:41 PM, Anne Campbell via Hidden-discuss wrote:
>
> Hello, Hidden-Techies,
>
> A few of my clients have worked with Gaia Host for either Web hosting
> or domain name registration or both. In the last six months,
> communication from Gaia Host has slowed to a trickle and then
> completely stopped. I haven't found anyone who's heard from them
> since January.
>
> I now have several clients whose domain names are going to expire
> soon, but they're registered through Gaia Host's GoDaddy account.
>
> GoDaddy just says, "The domain names are registered to Gaia Host fair
> and square, so there's nothing we can do. Take them to court and then
> call us back."
>
> Has anyone been in this situation, either with Gaia Host or another
> host/registrar? What do you do when the owner of your business's
> domain name simply stops responding?
>
> Thanks -
> Anne Campbell
>
> --
> Anne Campbell, info at annecampbelldesign.com
> <mailto:info at annecampbelldesign.com>
> https://www.annecampbelldesign.com/ <http://www.annecampbelldesign.com/>
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> Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2019 19:44:11 -0400
> From: Rich Roth <rich at on-the-net.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Gaia Host has gone AWOL; any advice?
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> same number as on the web site:? Also this lists Charles:
> http://gaiahost.coop/about-us/worker-cooperative
>
> Here is another email for him: Charles at be.coop <mailto:Charles at be.coop>
>
> On 4/30/2019 7:29 PM, Aaron E-J via Hidden-discuss wrote:
>
> Here is the WhoIs info for gaiahost.coop, it has a phone number and
> other contact info
> Domain Name: GAIAHOST.COOP
> Registry Domain ID: D7883428-CNIC
> Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.domains.coop
> Registrar URL:
> Updated Date: 2016-07-12T13:59:18.0Z
> Creation Date: 2004-08-11T10:22:09.0Z
> Registry Expiry Date: 2017-08-11T23:59:59.0Z
> Registrar: Domains.COOP
> Registrar IANA ID: 465
> Domain Status: ok https://icann.org/epp#ok
> Registry Registrant ID: C70227556-CNIC
> Registrant Name: Charles Strader Sweethill
> Registrant Organization: Gaia Host Collective, LLC
> Registrant Street: PO Box 622
> Registrant City: Greenfield
> Registrant State/Province: Massachusetts
> Registrant Postal Code: 01302
> Registrant Country: US
> Registrant Phone: +1.8006728060
> Registrant Fax: +00.0000000
> Registrant Email: online at gaiahost.coop
> Registry Admin ID: C70227556-CNIC
> Admin Name: Charles Strader Sweethill
> Admin Organization: Gaia Host Collective, LLC
> Admin Street: PO Box 622
> Admin City: Greenfield
> Admin State/Province: Massachusetts
> Admin Postal Code: 01302
> Admin Country: US
> Admin Phone: +1.8006728060
> Admin Fax: +00.0000000
> Admin Email: online at gaiahost.coop
> Registry Tech ID: C70227556-CNIC
> Tech Name: Charles Strader Sweethill
> Tech Organization: Gaia Host Collective, LLC
> Tech Street: PO Box 622
> Tech City: Greenfield
> Tech State/Province: Massachusetts
> Tech Postal Code: 01302
> Tech Country: US
> Tech Phone: +1.8006728060
> Tech Fax: +00.0000000
> Tech Email: online at gaiahost.coop
> Name Server: NS1.GAIAHOST.COOP
> Name Server: NS2.GAIAHOST.COOP
> Name Server: NS3.GAIAHOST.COOP
> Name Server: NS4.GAIAHOST.COOP
> DNSSEC: unsigned
> Registry Billing ID: C70227556-CNIC
> Billing Name: Charles Strader Sweethill
> Billing Organization: Gaia Host Collective, LLC
> Billing Street: PO Box 622
> Billing City: Greenfield
> Billing State/Province: Massachusetts
> Billing Postal Code: 01302
> Billing Country: US
> Billing Phone: +1.8006728060
> Billing Fax: +00.0000000
> Billing Email: online at gaiahost.coop
> Registrar Abuse Contact Email: violetta at domains.coop
> Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +44.1865403136
> URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form:
> https://www.icann.org/wicf/
>
> Last update of WHOIS database: 2017-07-13T06:35:55.0Z <<<
>
> For more information on Whois status codes, please visit
> https://icann.org/epp
> IMPORTANT NOTE: The format of WHOIS records changed on March 1, 2017.
> For more information, please visit:
> https://www.centralnic.com/company/news/2016/changes-to-whois
> This whois service is provided by CentralNic Ltd and only contains
> information pertaining to Internet domain names registered by our
> our customers. By using this service you are agreeing (1) not to use any
> information presented here for any purpose other than determining
> ownership of domain names, (2) not to store or reproduce this data in
> any way, (3) not to use any high-volume, automated, electronic processes
> to obtain data from this service. Abuse of this service is monitored and
> actions in contravention of these terms will result in being permanently
> blacklisted. All data is (c) CentralNic Ltd https://www.centralnic.com/
> Access to the whois service is rate limited. For more information, please
> see https://registrar-console.centralnic.com/pub/whois_guidance.
> Aaron E-J
> The Other Realm LLC
> http://otherrealm.org
> http://theotherrealm.org  (Blog)
> On 2019-04-30 7:15 PM, Rich Roth via Hidden-discuss wrote:
>
>
> GoDaddy is copping out (as usual) -- I'd say check out the ICANN
> rules, they oversee the domain name process,
> not Gaia nor GoDaddy
>
> Look here: https://www.icann.org/registrants
>
> Does anyone have any leads on the Gaia Host people ??
>
> Rich
>
> On 4/30/2019 4:41 PM, Anne Campbell via Hidden-discuss wrote:
>
> Hello, Hidden-Techies,
>
> A few of my clients have worked with Gaia Host for either Web
> hosting or domain name registration or both. In the last six months,
> communication from Gaia Host has slowed to a trickle and then
> completely stopped. I haven't found anyone who's heard from them
> since January.
>
> I now have several clients whose domain names are going to expire
> soon, but they're registered through Gaia Host's GoDaddy account.
>
> GoDaddy just says, "The domain names are registered to Gaia Host
> fair and square, so there's nothing we can do. Take them to court
> and then call us back."
>
> Has anyone been in this situation, either with Gaia Host or another
> host/registrar? What do you do when the owner of your business's
> domain name simply stops responding?
>
> Thanks -
> Anne Campbell
>
> --
> Anne Campbell, info at annecampbelldesign.com
> <mailto:info at annecampbelldesign.com>
> https://www.annecampbelldesign.com/ <http://www.annecampbelldesign.com/>
>
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