[Hidden-tech] Domain dispute

[Sam McClellan]

Typically in a case like this, you need to have proof of ownership or 
the domain name needs to have a history of pointing to the website of an 
established business that had ownership. The fact that they shared a 
business and there was no written agreement on the domain ownership 
makes it very messy. I'm not a lawyer but it sounds like they need to 
get a lawyer.

Sam
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On 8/22/2019 11:55 AM, Dédé Wilson via Hidden-discuss wrote:
> No, it did not lapse. A business associate at the time who had access 
> to everything (emails, PINs, etc.) changed everything over to herself 
> without his approval.
>
> I’ve been on the phone with Google fraud, crawled all over ICANN and 
> Whois…BUT I do not have a $99 membership to the section you 
> linked…anyone want to help who is a member?
>
> Dédé
>
>> On Aug 22, 2019, at 11:47 AM, Alan Fleming <alanfleming9826 at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:alanfleming9826 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Did the original owner allow the registration to lapse? It is not 
>> uncommon to lose a domain, even google.com <http://google.com/> was 
>> lost in /2015 and someone noticed, registered it, and got paid from 
>> google to get it back, all within a matter of minutes:
>> https://www.businessinsider.com/this-guy-bought-googlecom-from-google-for-one-minute-2015-9
>>
>> But there are tools that look for the 'Who Is' history of a domain:
>> http://research.domaintools.com/research/whois-history/
>>
>> Hopefully the original owner didnt use privacy settings that would 
>> hide their info from a who is lookup, but otherwise this should be 
>> able to help in determining when ownership changed.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 11:46 AM Dédé Wilson via Hidden-discuss 
>> <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net 
>> <mailto:hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi All, I am trying to help someone who originally established a
>>     URL in 2005. He was doing business with a partner for the last
>>     several years and they have now broken up their business
>>     arrangement (all very informal). He has just realized that over
>>     the last few months she has transferred his 2 domains to her own
>>     ownership via Google and he is locked out of his site and is no
>>     longer the “owner” on paper, as it were.
>>
>>     I spoke with Google this morning and understand that they have a
>>     fraud process, but I was hoping someone with experience might
>>     chat with me about things he can do.
>>
>>     One thing I was hoping to find was a historical record of the
>>     ownership of the URL, but I have not been successful with that.
>>     And that might not even mean anything anyway…:(
>>
>>     Any help much appreciated
>>
>>     Dédé
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