Yes agreed, Defender isn't enough. We've used https://avast.com on our and our client's computers for years and it's been great other than a short dabble they had with installing a third party program in a not entirely above board way for a short time. Avast has a paid version that does a lot more including anti-malware. We've never had a problem with avast slowing down or crashing a computer, unlike Norton and McAffe. Sam On 3/18/2018 8:58 AM, Tony Gomes wrote: > Good point Ed, > > While Windows 10 does come preinstalled with defender (their version > of an anti-malware/antivirus in one); it's real life capture and > "defend" rate has been less than acceptable. Independent rating and > reviews put it as: "using a hoodie as a means of warmth during a > blizzard, while it might be warmer than just a t-shirt, it isn't > handling real life". > Some users have even experienced and reported legit software being > uninstalled due to it being flagged as virus/malware, software that > usually is a competitor to one of Microsoft's products. > You can leave it on if you like and use it, it is better than "just a > t-shirt". I've found that the combination of one of the free > anti-virus versions (that get tested and rated every year publicly); > and an anti-malware product (malware isn't considered a virus, the 30 > browser add bars that have been installed over the years from various > sites/programs are not malicious code written to take over your > data/machine, just annoyances trying to make money), the combination > of those two products can drastically reduce the chances of > infections/issues. > There are other add-ons you can install for your browsers ( mainly > chrome and Firefox browsers) to further give you anonymity and further > prevention, but the combination of anti-virus + anti-malware should > cover 95% of the common stuff. > The other thing to keep in mind is that both of these products > combined don't stop everything, they usually get updated once a new > virus has been found by a large margin of people, so if you happen to > be the first few that catch it... there's nothing preventing it. > > The way I explain it to people is: it's like the flu/cold, you can eat > right, excercise, take multi-vitamins, get the flu shot, wash your > hands like crazy and avoid sick people; while you might be better off > than the person that did nothing, you're still not immune to it, you > just drastically reduce your chances. And it's the same for computers. > No software will prevent it from happening, just reduce it. And > nothing replaces good surfing/email habits. > > Hope this helps, > Tony > > > > > From: Edward Bride > Sent: Friday, March 16, 8:50 PM > Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Got my PC today. How do I get > itexchangingfileswith the Mac? > To: 'Hidden-Tech Tech' > > > Not to scoff (I know it’s Microsoft), but doesn’t Windows10 come with > anti-malware software? > > Ed Bride > > *From:* hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net > <hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net> *On Behalf Of *Tony Gomes > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 07, 2018 11:01 AM > *To:* Hidden-Tech Tech <hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net> > *Subject:* Re: [Hidden-tech] Got my PC today. How do I get it > exchanging files with the Mac? > > There are a bunch of free antivirus programs out there, or even paid > ones with free variants. The top two for the last decade or so are: > AVG and Avast. Recently Avast baught out AVG so they are owned by the > same company but still two separate products. > I've been using both for years but have found that AVG seems to be a > little more "hefty" to run as of the last 2 or 3 years, so I've gone > to Avast. Just be careful/mindfull because both products try to > install a bunch of other stuff to "help" you out. And make sure to put > either of them into "gaming mode" so as to stop anoying pop ups. With > either product they kind of want you to run manual scans but there is > a "burried" way to set up scheduled automatic scans, a little Google > and you'll find it. > Pair that with Malwarebytes Anti-malware (free to use in manual mode, > pay mode for schedules and live services), and this should cover 99% > of everything you run into that's bad. > > Hope this helps, > Tony > > > From: Shel Horowitz > Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 9:39 AM > Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Got my PC today. How do I get it exchanging > fileswith the Mac? > To: Hidden-Tech Tech > > Thanks, everyone. I don't have iCloud (always been a bit suspicious of > Apple's data grabs) but I do have carbonite. I should be able to make > it work that way or via the router. I also found a nice list that > gives the basic keyboard commands. > Three more questions: > My machine came with McAffee but they want to charge me annually. > What's a good freebie virus protection? > In Gmail, what's the keyboard command to send a message?In a browser, > what are the keyboard commands to zoom in or out? > Grateful, as always, > > Shel Horowitz - "The Transformpreneur"(sm) > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net > Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net > > You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. > If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members > page on the Hidden Tech Web site. > http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -- Sam McClellan Itabix, Inc Web Development, Hosting and Domain Registration sam at itabix.com http://itabix.com Main - 413.587.4600 Toll-free - 877-7ITABIX (877.748.2249) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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