Hi, Noah. > To clarify: Is this one class, or a sequence of classes? If a > sequence, how many courses?bIf it is only one class, you may too > ambitious. It's a vocational school - so we meet five days a week, the whole day, every other week for an entire year. Such luxury! Plenty of time. The course is called "Programming and Web Development" so I need both front- and back-end. But the coding does not have to be web coding ... I could do front end (Javascript) and Wordpress, and then use Python or Java for coding. But still may be too ambitious -- these are not college students, and many are not committed to becoming programmers. > My main thought: remove as much friction and ceremony as possible, and > get them publishing things and having fun quickly. I agree with you. But ALSO - given how much time we have - get those who want them marketable skills. > Focusing on front end development might give the students the most > bang for their buck. The landscape of CSS / HTML / JS is overwhelming > enough. (You might not remember how confusing it was to get relative > links to work for the first time). They have been learning CSS & HTML for two years - they know that pretty well already. When I get them, they have to progress from static Dreamweaver HTML sites to data-driven sites with server applications. BUT - they don't need to learn php to know Wordpress - just enough to edit templates. > I recommend finding a simple and disposable deployment strategy. > Something like https://surge.sh/ Advanced students could move on to > exploring javascript view frameworks, connecting to hosted database > solutions like firebase, or using local file storage. I will look into that! Thank you. > If your curriculum spans several courses, and you are committed to > addressing the full stack then *option 4* makes the most sense to me. > Python has been heralded as a great introductory language, with many > applications. Thank you. That affirms Jeff's feedback. Looking forward to hearing others, 'specially Paul. -Bram -- Martin Bram Moreinis, Designer/Developer http://myinstructionaldesigns.com (413) 829-0355 -- *This email is intended for educational use only and must comply with Pathfinder Regional Vocational Technical High School’s policies and state/federal laws. Under Massachusetts Law, any email created or received by an employee of Pathfinder is considered a public record. All email correspondence is subject to the requirements of M.G.L. Chapter 66. This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies.* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.hidden-tech.net/pipermail/hidden-discuss/attachments/20170911/8431cc1c/attachment.html