Agreed. What I usually do is turn off "Smart Quotes" in Word, then copy the smart quote and paste it into a Find box and type the quote into the replace box. Same with apostrophe. This gives me straight ASCII versions. Don Lesser Pioneer Training, Inc. 139B Damon Road, Ste 8 Northampton, MA 01060 (413) 387-1040 dlesser at ptraining.com www.ptraining.com -----Original Message----- From: hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net [mailto:hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net] On Behalf Of Elijah Gwynn Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 6:20 PM To: Robert Heller <heller at deepsoft.com> Cc: Rich Roth <webmaster at hidden-tech.net>; hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net; David Greenberg <david.greenberg3 at gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Text Manipulation Problem Quote-replying in-kind. On 22 Oct 2017, at 18:08, Robert Heller wrote: > You do know that an apostrophe is not really an apostrophe and a > double quote mark is not really a double quote mark. That is the > ASCII apostrophe > (') and > ASCII double quote mark (") seem to be avoided like the plague. Many > "modern" > programs (mailers, wordprocessors, etc.) want to use the alt > characters off in the world beyond 0x7f... I get that all of the > time. :-) In fact, "smart quotes" are built-in with many modern operating systems (OS X/macOS, at least)! In any stock text input area on a Mac, you can bring up the contextual menu and go into "Substitutions" and enable/disable "Smart Quotes". Fortunately, as it bears on the subject of avoiding encoding issues, the ASCII delimiters shouldn't be a problem in anything encoded in UTF-8, since it's a strict superset of ASCII. Eli _______________________________________________ Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members page on the Hidden Tech Web site. http://www.hidden-tech.net/members