At Sun, 18 Oct 2015 09:40:08 -0400 ussailis at shaysnet.com wrote: > > There are several hardware issues going on here. > > First NYC is a congested area, so the "speed" could easily be less. Your > packets are going to a machine along with many others, takes time to > separate all this, which can enter into the speed. > > Then there is the route your speed test packets traveled. Darpa-net was > planned to be very robust in a nuclear war. Packets travel on whatever > route is available at the time and where the net software places them. Your > test to NYC, in theory, could have packets going to Europe and back, tho > not likely. While those to Tx could have a more direct route. > > Finally there is a signal-to-noise issue than I run into with clients. You > mentioned DSL. At my house, Verizon DSL is restricted to what can go over > telephone lines. Verizon claims 3 Gbps, which I never see. We are NOT using DSL -- we are over the MBI Middle Mile fiber. I am only using the *DSLReports.com* speed test. And I think you mean 3MBits for DSL, not 3GBits! 3 Gbps is not possible over copper phone lines. > > Now my wireless modem box claims 54 Gbps, which if it were one bit/Hz of 54 MBits, I think you mean. > bandwidth would not fit in the entire WiFi band. The FCC and other users > might frown on this. I am using a hardwired computer to a *dedicated* high-speed point-to-point wireless link (across the town common) between the Library and the Police Station. The connection to the MBI fiber is at the Police Station (there is a reason for this that is neither here nor there). The reason we are NOT using the Library's MBI connection is because MBI/Axia charges an arm and a leg for *each* connection to their fiber, which the town cannot afford. *I* have already done a test of the point-to-point wireless link and it is more than fast enough, given our MBI connection speed. > > So some fancy modulation schemes are used to cram more bits/Hz down the > pipe. This requires a higher signal-to-noise ratio (S/N) on the line, > and/or thru the air. > > Noise? Where's this noise? There is always noise in every communication > system. It may be weak, but it is there. > > A higher S/N requires either more transmit power, or less range. Max > transmit power is fixed, so there is either a range reduction, or the magic > in the box reduces the bit rate to accommodate the range. > > Now what has all this to do with a wired system, or even a fiber optic > system? > > Same rules apply. Excess noise, too many users, insufficient power, even > sharing the available power among users, all cause a lower thru-put. > > So is there a meaningful speed test? Probably if the receiving unit were > next door and hard wired to your box. > > > Jim Ussailis > National Wireless, Inc > > > PS If you want to wade thru it (make a big pot of coffee first) see "The > Mathematical Theory of Communication," by Shannon & Weaver. > > > Original email: > ----------------- > From: Robert Heller heller at deepsoft.com > Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 16:54:38 -0400 > To: hidden-discuss at mm01.tnrnet.com > Subject: [Hidden-tech] Reliable, accurate, meaningful Internet speed test? > > > > > > Is there such a thing as a reliable, accurate, or meaningful Internet speed > test? > > We are having some weirdness with trying to figure out just what speed our > Internet connection *really* is. Our provider is supposed to be giving us > 20Mbits down and 20Mbits up. It does not seem to be that and when we run > speed tests we get 'weird' results. > > Speakeasy using the *Dallas, TX* server says we are getting 12.37 down, and > 18.93 up, but their *New York, NY* server says something completely > different, > 4.70 down and 18.93 up. What does that mean, really? Why is it faster using > the rather distant Dallas server vs. the fairly close NYC server? Is > Speakeasy's NYC server a '486? Or what? Or is there something randomly > screwy > with Speakeasy Flash code? > > DSLReports speed test is much better, reporting 16.16/17.7 megabit/second -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services heller at deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services