There are several hardware issues going on here. First NYC is a congested area, so the "speed" could easily be less. Your packets are going to a machine along with many others, takes time to separate all this, which can enter into the speed. Then there is the route your speed test packets traveled. Darpa-net was planned to be very robust in a nuclear war. Packets travel on whatever route is available at the time and where the net software places them. Your test to NYC, in theory, could have packets going to Europe and back, tho not likely. While those to Tx could have a more direct route. Finally there is a signal-to-noise issue than I run into with clients. You mentioned DSL. At my house, Verizon DSL is restricted to what can go over telephone lines. Verizon claims 3 Gbps, which I never see. Now my wireless modem box claims 54 Gbps, which if it were one bit/Hz of bandwidth would not fit in the entire WiFi band. The FCC and other users might frown on this. So some fancy modulation schemes are used to cram more bits/Hz down the pipe. This requires a higher signal-to-noise ratio (S/N) on the line, and/or thru the air. Noise? Where's this noise? There is always noise in every communication system. It may be weak, but it is there. A higher S/N requires either more transmit power, or less range. Max transmit power is fixed, so there is either a range reduction, or the magic in the box reduces the bit rate to accommodate the range. Now what has all this to do with a wired system, or even a fiber optic system? Same rules apply. Excess noise, too many users, insufficient power, even sharing the available power among users, all cause a lower thru-put. So is there a meaningful speed test? Probably if the receiving unit were next door and hard wired to your box. Jim Ussailis National Wireless, Inc PS If you want to wade thru it (make a big pot of coffee first) see "The Mathematical Theory of Communication," by Shannon & Weaver. Original email: ----------------- From: Robert Heller heller at deepsoft.com Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 16:54:38 -0400 To: hidden-discuss at mm01.tnrnet.com Subject: [Hidden-tech] Reliable, accurate, meaningful Internet speed test? Is there such a thing as a reliable, accurate, or meaningful Internet speed test? We are having some weirdness with trying to figure out just what speed our Internet connection *really* is. Our provider is supposed to be giving us 20Mbits down and 20Mbits up. It does not seem to be that and when we run speed tests we get 'weird' results. Speakeasy using the *Dallas, TX* server says we are getting 12.37 down, and 18.93 up, but their *New York, NY* server says something completely different, 4.70 down and 18.93 up. What does that mean, really? Why is it faster using the rather distant Dallas server vs. the fairly close NYC server? Is Speakeasy's NYC server a '486? Or what? Or is there something randomly screwy with Speakeasy Flash code? DSLReports speed test is much better, reporting 16.16/17.7 megabit/second -- not too bad. Speedof.me's HTML5 speed test reports somewhere about 5MBits down / 20Mbits up. As does speedtest_cli's Python program. Speedof.me gives no choice of server. Choosing different servers with speedtest_cli makes little or no difference. Note: all of the above are from the same *hardwired* machine at about the same time on a generally quiet network. Is there anything like a truely reliable and generally accurate Internet speed test out there? (No I am not looking for a dead accurate speed test, just something with reasonable, repeatable *reliable* and *consistent* results. Results that make some kind of sense. -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services heller at deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services _______________________________________________ Hidden-discuss mailing list - home page: http://www.hidden-tech.net Hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net You are receiving this because you are on the Hidden-Tech Discussion list. If you would like to change your list preferences, Go to the Members page on the Hidden Tech Web site. http://www.hidden-tech.net/members -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com - Microsoft Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange