[Hidden-tech] So much junk mail!

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This email is nearly 15 years old and public I had to give up on it for a few years due to spam. Then I gave up and paid Google to host the email. I can use it again no problems. 

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> On Jul 21, 2015, at 7:11 PM, Roy A Cohen <roy at net-vantage.com> wrote:
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> Tim, you are very correct in your spam filtering assessment - and it is truly a losing battle.
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> I know of situations where the only solution was to start up a new email address and simply abandon the old one.
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> There is an article I happened on just today talking about how even Gmail is losing its grip on the spam war:
>> Steps to Defeating SPAM
>> Posted by Fraud Online on June 12, 2015 in Scammers
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>> Gmail SPAM filter іѕ fighting а losing battle. I аm dоіng ѕоmе ANTI-SPAM testing. Fоr thе раѕt 4 months I hаvе bееn vеrу public wіth mу Gmail email address, signing uр fоr newsletters, uѕіng іt оn forms, аnd sharing іt publicly оn forums, blogs, аnd discussion boards. I expected tо gеt spammed to death, that’s еxасtlу what’s beginning tо happen. Evеrу day, I receive аbоut 20 junk emails. I knоw thаt іѕ small, but fоr ѕоmеоnе whо іѕ uѕе tо nеvеr ѕееіng spam іn thеіr inbox, it’s а quіtе bit.
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> Despite everything, several of my clients are using Symantec's cloud email service. Yes, it costs some money but relatively little. Yes, there are certainly humans there dealing with their filters. But, on the whole, the product has made a very significant difference in their, and my, email inboxes. The best thing about it is once set up you don't need to do anything other than occasionally glance, if you wish, at their email of quarantined messages. You may miss one or two legit messages, but you know what, if it is important enough the sender should follow up with another email, or, G-d forbid, call your phone to follow up!!
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> I happen to be a distributor for this cloud product; inquiries always welcome!
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> -Roy
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>> On 07/21/2015 02:44 PM, Tim Boudreau wrote:
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>>> My big problem with every antispam system I've ever tried--including GMail is inaccuracy in filtering.
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>> Any system that tries to detect spam is going to be making a set of trade-offs - either erring on the side of false-negatives (you get spam in your inbox), or false-positives (legitimate mail gets filtered as spam).  It's an evolutionary war-of-attrition - any characteristic that reliably identifies an email as spam is one spammers will change so it doesn't work anymore.
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>> The most effective solutions, such as GMail's, crowd-source the identification of spam so that relatively few users see any given spam message - that at least acknowledges the reality that there are no defining characteristics of what-is-spam (and even there, different people have different definitions of that - a one-size-fits-all solution is not going to work).  But even there, it's still a war of attrition, since there are ways to make emails differ enough that they won't be identified as "the same message".
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>> It's simply not a 100% solvable problem (short of paying someone to read your inbox and manually filter the spam) - mainly you need to look at the characteristics of the different ways of mitigating it, and decide what you care about (some spam but few false-negatives, or no spam and some lost messages) and pick a solution based on that.  There are no silver bullets.
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>> -Tim
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