[Hidden-tech] Blackberry 8820 - Re: buying used cell phones, unlocking and functionality

[Daniel Paquin]

Yes if its unlocked by ATT. T-mobile and ATT use the same radio/tower 
technology.  Sprint and Verizon do not.

On 9/30/14, 8:38 AM, Andy Klapper wrote:
> Really late to this discussion but an AT&T phone does not necessarily need
> an AT&T SIM.  If the phone is unlocked then it can take a SIM from another
> carrier.  I replace the SIM card in my AT&T phone every year with a European
> carrier when I go to Europe and it works fine (and costs a whole lot less to
> make calls and use the internet than keeping the AT&T SIM in the phone).
>
>
> Andy.
>
> Andy Klapper
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> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Blackberry 8820 - Re: buying used cell phones,
> unlocking and functionality
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> The ATT phone would need an ATT SIM.
>
> On 9/19/14, 12:55 PM, Andrew Bellak wrote:
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>> So as a temporary measure, I tried to connect an old ATT unlocked
>> Blackberry 8820 with a new T-Mobile sim card.
>>
>> The towers see the SIM card but the phone will only make SOS/911 calls.
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> T-Mobile tech could not figure it out.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> On 9/19/2014 10:49 AM, John Shannon wrote:
>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>
>>> Although this article discusses how to buy a used phone on
>>> Craigslist, much of the information is transferable.
>>>
>>> http://recraigslist.com/2013/03/how-to-buy-a-used-cell-phone/
>>>
>>> Look at "3. IMEI / MEID Check" for more info on  ID numbers,
>>> cancelled plans, and how that affects your ability to use the phone.
>>>
>>> The article is over a year old so some of this info may have changed.
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>>
>>> John
>>>
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>>> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Jeff Brand <jeff at deltafactory.com>
> wrote:
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>>>> If the IMEI is blocked, then I believe it will remain that way even when
> unlocked and moved to another GSM carrier (AT&T). It seems like it's a
> common problem. Sellers can often get rid of the phone before it shows up on
> the blocked list.
>>>> Functionality not related to cell service will work as expected: Wifi,
> GPS, camera, and email. You can work around some of the phone-like behavior
> over Wifi with various apps like WhatsApp, Google Hangouts/Voice, Skype,
> etc. However, I'm not sure if Apple takes any action against devices with
> blocked IMEIs with regard to the App Store, especially paid apps.
>>>> I would get a refund ASAP.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/18/2014 10:41 PM, andrew bellak wrote:
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>>>>
>>>> Well buyer beware when buying a used mobile phone on eBay.
>>>>
>>>> I wanted to share my experience so others might save time, energy, and
> money were they to try to buy a used phone.
>>>> I have bought and sold used phones on eBay without incident until a week
> ago.
>>>> I did learn that if one is to buy an iPhone for example, you might think
> that if the serial numbers, called IMEI or ESN are 'clean' that you're in
> the clear.
>>>> In addition to having a clean number, an iPhone will also need to be
> icloud unlocked.
>>>> What I learned is that there is a risk that the original owner may be
> making installment payments OR owe a balance from an early termination fee.
>>>> So if that original owner becomes delinquent on debts, the carrier shuts
> off the signal to the phone. T-Mobile in this case would not tell me how
> much was owed nor would they allow me to pay the original owner's debt even
> if I wanted to.
>>>> This is ridiculous in my opinion.
>>>>
>>>> So if you're going to pursue this avenue, get the serial number first
> and call the carrier and clear it with them.
>>>> UNLOCKING
>>>> This leads me to ask about unlocking an iPhone.
>>>>
>>>> If we unlock the phone, free it from the carrier, I would like to know
> how well the phone may function afterwards.  Will it work fine for calling,
> camera, maps/gps, texting, and email?
>>>> Other apps and games are not really of interest.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure I'll ever buy a used phone again unless I know the person
> and can be assured that it's free and clear.
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Andrew
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