[Hidden-tech] Blackberry 8820 - Re: buying used cell phones, unlocking and functionality

[Andy Klapper]

Really late to this discussion but an AT&T phone does not necessarily need
an AT&T SIM.  If the phone is unlocked then it can take a SIM from another
carrier.  I replace the SIM card in my AT&T phone every year with a European
carrier when I go to Europe and it works fine (and costs a whole lot less to
make calls and use the internet than keeping the AT&T SIM in the phone).


Andy.

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Making Complex Software Simple
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The ATT phone would need an ATT SIM.

On 9/19/14, 12:55 PM, Andrew Bellak wrote:
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> So as a temporary measure, I tried to connect an old ATT unlocked 
> Blackberry 8820 with a new T-Mobile sim card.
>
> The towers see the SIM card but the phone will only make SOS/911 calls.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> T-Mobile tech could not figure it out.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Andrew
>
> On 9/19/2014 10:49 AM, John Shannon wrote:
>> Hi Andrew,
>>
>> Although this article discusses how to buy a used phone on 
>> Craigslist, much of the information is transferable.
>>
>> http://recraigslist.com/2013/03/how-to-buy-a-used-cell-phone/
>>
>> Look at "3. IMEI / MEID Check" for more info on  ID numbers, 
>> cancelled plans, and how that affects your ability to use the phone.
>>
>> The article is over a year old so some of this info may have changed.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> John
>>
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>> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Jeff Brand <jeff at deltafactory.com>
wrote:
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>>> If the IMEI is blocked, then I believe it will remain that way even when
unlocked and moved to another GSM carrier (AT&T). It seems like it's a
common problem. Sellers can often get rid of the phone before it shows up on
the blocked list.
>>>
>>> Functionality not related to cell service will work as expected: Wifi,
GPS, camera, and email. You can work around some of the phone-like behavior
over Wifi with various apps like WhatsApp, Google Hangouts/Voice, Skype,
etc. However, I'm not sure if Apple takes any action against devices with
blocked IMEIs with regard to the App Store, especially paid apps.
>>>
>>> I would get a refund ASAP.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/18/2014 10:41 PM, andrew bellak wrote:
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>>> Well buyer beware when buying a used mobile phone on eBay.
>>>
>>> I wanted to share my experience so others might save time, energy, and
money were they to try to buy a used phone.
>>>
>>> I have bought and sold used phones on eBay without incident until a week
ago.
>>>
>>> I did learn that if one is to buy an iPhone for example, you might think
that if the serial numbers, called IMEI or ESN are 'clean' that you're in
the clear.
>>>
>>> In addition to having a clean number, an iPhone will also need to be
icloud unlocked.
>>>
>>> What I learned is that there is a risk that the original owner may be
making installment payments OR owe a balance from an early termination fee.
>>>
>>> So if that original owner becomes delinquent on debts, the carrier shuts
off the signal to the phone. T-Mobile in this case would not tell me how
much was owed nor would they allow me to pay the original owner's debt even
if I wanted to.
>>>
>>> This is ridiculous in my opinion.
>>>
>>> So if you're going to pursue this avenue, get the serial number first
and call the carrier and clear it with them.
>>>
>>> UNLOCKING
>>> This leads me to ask about unlocking an iPhone.
>>>
>>> If we unlock the phone, free it from the carrier, I would like to know
how well the phone may function afterwards.  Will it work fine for calling,
camera, maps/gps, texting, and email?
>>>
>>> Other apps and games are not really of interest.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure I'll ever buy a used phone again unless I know the person
and can be assured that it's free and clear.
>>>
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>>> Andrew
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