[Hidden-tech] Blackberry 8820 - Re: buying used cell phones, unlocking and functionality

[Andrew Bellak]

thanks y'all.

it's a T-Mobile SIM in an allegedly unlocked ATT phone.

since T-Mobile could not figure out how to get it to work, I'll give up.

just not worth any more time, cutting my losses.

oh well.

On 9/30/2014 12:00 PM, Daniel Paquin wrote:
>
>
> Yes if its unlocked by ATT. T-mobile and ATT use the same radio/tower
> technology.  Sprint and Verizon do not.
>
> On 9/30/14, 8:38 AM, Andy Klapper wrote:
>> Really late to this discussion but an AT&T phone does not necessarily need
>> an AT&T SIM.  If the phone is unlocked then it can take a SIM from another
>> carrier.  I replace the SIM card in my AT&T phone every year with a European
>> carrier when I go to Europe and it works fine (and costs a whole lot less to
>> make calls and use the internet than keeping the AT&T SIM in the phone).
>>
>>
>> Andy.
>>
>> Andy Klapper
>> Asgard Technology Group, LLC
>> Making Complex Software Simple
>> Andy at Asgard-Tech.com
>> (860) 805-1189 (cell)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net
>> [mailto:hidden-discuss-bounces at lists.hidden-tech.net] On Behalf Of Daniel
>> Paquin
>> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 2:08 PM
>> To: hidden-discuss
>> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Blackberry 8820 - Re: buying used cell phones,
>> unlocking and functionality
>>
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>>
>> The ATT phone would need an ATT SIM.
>>
>> On 9/19/14, 12:55 PM, Andrew Bellak wrote:
>>>       ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's
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>>>
>>> So as a temporary measure, I tried to connect an old ATT unlocked
>>> Blackberry 8820 with a new T-Mobile sim card.
>>>
>>> The towers see the SIM card but the phone will only make SOS/911 calls.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> T-Mobile tech could not figure it out.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>> On 9/19/2014 10:49 AM, John Shannon wrote:
>>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>>
>>>> Although this article discusses how to buy a used phone on
>>>> Craigslist, much of the information is transferable.
>>>>
>>>> http://recraigslist.com/2013/03/how-to-buy-a-used-cell-phone/
>>>>
>>>> Look at "3. IMEI / MEID Check" for more info on  ID numbers,
>>>> cancelled plans, and how that affects your ability to use the phone.
>>>>
>>>> The article is over a year old so some of this info may have changed.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck,
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> John Shannon
>>>> JDS Communications
>>>> 21 Taylor Street
>>>> Amherst, MA 01002
>>>> c: (413) 835-1025
>>>> skype: john.shannon108
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Jeff Brand <jeff at deltafactory.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>        ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If the IMEI is blocked, then I believe it will remain that way even when
>> unlocked and moved to another GSM carrier (AT&T). It seems like it's a
>> common problem. Sellers can often get rid of the phone before it shows up on
>> the blocked list.
>>>>> Functionality not related to cell service will work as expected: Wifi,
>> GPS, camera, and email. You can work around some of the phone-like behavior
>> over Wifi with various apps like WhatsApp, Google Hangouts/Voice, Skype,
>> etc. However, I'm not sure if Apple takes any action against devices with
>> blocked IMEIs with regard to the App Store, especially paid apps.
>>>>> I would get a refund ASAP.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/18/2014 10:41 PM, andrew bellak wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>        ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well buyer beware when buying a used mobile phone on eBay.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wanted to share my experience so others might save time, energy, and
>> money were they to try to buy a used phone.
>>>>> I have bought and sold used phones on eBay without incident until a week
>> ago.
>>>>> I did learn that if one is to buy an iPhone for example, you might think
>> that if the serial numbers, called IMEI or ESN are 'clean' that you're in
>> the clear.
>>>>> In addition to having a clean number, an iPhone will also need to be
>> icloud unlocked.
>>>>> What I learned is that there is a risk that the original owner may be
>> making installment payments OR owe a balance from an early termination fee.
>>>>> So if that original owner becomes delinquent on debts, the carrier shuts
>> off the signal to the phone. T-Mobile in this case would not tell me how
>> much was owed nor would they allow me to pay the original owner's debt even
>> if I wanted to.
>>>>> This is ridiculous in my opinion.
>>>>>
>>>>> So if you're going to pursue this avenue, get the serial number first
>> and call the carrier and clear it with them.
>>>>> UNLOCKING
>>>>> This leads me to ask about unlocking an iPhone.
>>>>>
>>>>> If we unlock the phone, free it from the carrier, I would like to know
>> how well the phone may function afterwards.  Will it work fine for calling,
>> camera, maps/gps, texting, and email?
>>>>> Other apps and games are not really of interest.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure I'll ever buy a used phone again unless I know the person
>> and can be assured that it's free and clear.
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>
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