[Hidden-tech] faxes on Comcast phone lines

[Bruce Hooke]

I am writing this from Rhode Island, where Verizon does offer FOIS, and
that's what I use for my Internet connection, so my experience is with a
VOIP. I am NOT on DSL.

Yes, I am using an anolog modem card.

Bruce 

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Heller [mailto:heller at deepsoft.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 10:19 PM
To: Bruce Hooke
Cc: 'Chris Hoogendyk'; 'Tess Gadwa'; 'Hidden-Tech Tech'; Robert Heller
Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] faxes on Comcast phone lines

At Tue, 18 Jun 2013 11:48:57 -0400 "Bruce Hooke" <bghooke at att.net> wrote:

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> For what it's worth, my faxes go out over a Verizon cable 
> Internet/telephone line and I rarely have any problems, BUT, and it is 
> worth noting that I send

The phone line you get with *DSL* is over a copper POTS (analog) phone line
-- it is not a VOIP phone. The only kind of high speed Internet Verizon
offers in Western Mass is DSL -- FIOS is only available in Eastern Mass (eg
Boston suburbia).

> the faxes using software on my computer (Windows Fax and Scan). I am 
> not sure if this makes any difference but it is possible that the 
> computer

No, you are probably using an analog modem card (same as what you would use
for dial-up internet).

> software is more flexible when dealing with faxing out over a VOIP line.
> Even if faxing from the computer is not a long-term option for you, it 
> might be worth testing to see if it makes any difference. Windows 
> comes with built-in fax software, but of course you do need a 
> old-style modem on your computer to use it.
> 
> (As to why I send a fax off the computer when I could email: I don't 
> do it often but sometimes I am given a fax number but no email 
> address, or if I am sending something with sensative information like 
> social security numbers or credit card numbers, I prefer fax over email).
> 
> Bruce
> 
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> Chris Hoogendyk
> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 11:18 AM
> To: Tess Gadwa
> Cc: Hidden-Tech Tech
> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] faxes on Comcast phone lines
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>    ** If you did, we all thank you.
> 
> 
> FAX was specifically designed to work over analog phone lines.
> 
> I'm presuming you have converted your phone service at home and work 
> to be Voice over IP with Comcast cable internet. So your phone 
> connection is going out over the internet in packets and then getting 
> reconstructed at the other end to a voice connection. It's just going 
> to be really flaky trying to run FAX over that. If you really really 
> need FAX, then see if you can set it up with an analog line. There may 
> be some more expensive gateways that will facilitate running FAX on 
> Voice over IP, but I would just be googling to answer that. Someone else
might have actual experience and cost comparisons.
> 
> Alternatively, just scan to pdf and email that instead of using FAX. 
> Of course, the other party has to go along with that solution, but 
> that's basically where everything is going. I even submit receipts to 
> my health care spending account that way.
> 
> 
> On 6/18/13 9:45 AM, Tess Gadwa wrote:
> > Has anybody else experienced issues with faxes not working through 
> > Comcast (cable) provided phone lines? This is what we have at our 
> > office,
> and what I have at home as well.
> >
> > After repeated attempts and trying to fax to several different 
> > numbers, I still cannot get a fax to send!
> >
> > Thanks,
> 
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