[Hidden-tech] Municipal Broadband in Northampton--not WiFi
Robert Heller
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Mon Dec 2 07:36:50 EST 2013
At Mon, 2 Dec 2013 06:34:40 -0500 Patrick Foley <pfoley at gmail.com> wrote:
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> All of wifi's problems are solved with repeaters. This, of course, will
> introduce latency but you can solve that with multiple hard lines.
> Blanketing downtown Northampton with a decent wifi signal is completely
> possible, the issue is actually powering the repeaters... and it could even
> be reliably streaming-video-fast, depending on how we'd support older
> 802.11 tech.
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> I agree with the original email though, Northampton is ideal for a
> municipal running of fiber. It might run into trouble, depending on the
> contracts that the city has with Comcast/Verizon and possibly against state
> law. This sort of thing has been fought before in other states.
Mass. DOES NOT have a law banning municipal / govenerment owned telecom
services. *Verizon* has managed to get laws passed in *some* states banning
municipal / govenerment owned telecom services, in order to *protect* its
monopoly.
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> WiFi has multiple problems:
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> 1. The transmit power is limited by the FCC Rules & Regs. Max is 1 watt.
> Worse is that there are no WiFi units that are designed to operate near
> this power level.
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> As an aside, never be 'cute' and tell your wireless router you are in
> Europe. That setting automatically reduces the output power level to
> conform with EU rules.
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> 2. The amount of antenna gain that can be had is also limited.
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> 3. Any increase is WiFi bandwidth form 802.11b reduces signal range. Sorry
> but even the FCC can not change physics.
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> I think you will find that the best that WiFi can do is a lot less than all
> downtown 'Hamp.
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> 4. Then there is 802.11a. That is a higher frequency, 4 watt max, "campus"
> system. I don't even see that system doing anything close to all downtown.
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> Jim Ussailis
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> Original email:
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> From: Fateh Slavitskaya fateh at urchn.org
> Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 20:22:18 -0500
> To: palwilliams at northamptontv.org, hidden-discuss at lists.hidden-tech.net
> Subject: Re: [Hidden-tech] Municipal Broadband in Northampton
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> Big diff between muni broadband and muni wifi. Having both would be
> great, if the wifi could actually work. -F
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> On Fri, 2013-11-29 at 18:24 -0500, Al Williams wrote:
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> > Quite a few municipal Wi-Fi experiments have been troubled - see
> > Portland, OR. Shrewsbury offers municipal hard line system.
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> > On Nov 29, 2013 6:13 PM, "Shel Horowitz, Ethical/Green Marketing
> > Expert" <shel at principledprofit.com> wrote:
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> > Amherst has town wi-fi--might be good to talk to someone over
> > there.
> > Though frankly, I have had very poor experience trying to log
> > on to
> > the town wi-fi network from e.g., Amherst Coffee.
> >
> > At 1:08 PM -0500 11/29/13, Seth Fischer wrote:
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> > >Hello All,
> > >
> > >I am interested in promoting the idea of Municipal (offered)
> > >Broadband in Northampton. Comcast is simply too expensive and
> > low
> > >speed for the citizens and businesses in Northampton. I
> > believe
> > >Municipal Broadband would help the residents, as well as make
> > the
> > >City more appealing to businesses.
> > >
> > >I believe Northampton is an idea location, as such as large
> > percent
> > >of the population is within 1 mile of downtown.
> > >
> > >I have spoken with a City Councillor who expressed
> > significant
> > >interest in (at least) exploring the idea.
> > >
> > >Does anyone know any of the issues related to a Municipal
> > Broadband
> > >initiative?
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > >Seth Fischer
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