[Hidden-tech] Municipal Broadband in Northampton
Robert Heller
heller at deepsoft.com
Sun Dec 1 10:49:49 EST 2013
At Sun, 1 Dec 2013 10:29:56 -0500 Seth Fischer <seth at woodpelletprice.com> wrote:
>
>
> ---Executing: recode
> Apparently, the city had a fight with Verizon because Verizon attempted to
> put wires in the reserved city part of the poles.
Unfortunately, the 'reserved city part of the poles' is reserved for
'emergency services'. Even the city can't put general access fiber there, only
police/fire alarm and communication wires (eg for things like police phones
[no longer used -- they have been replaced with radio and cell phones] and
pole mounted fire alarm boxes, etc.).
I believe the state has passed laws putting limits on 'make ready' costs and
pole space rental, partitularly as relates to municipal / state usage (eg to
'grease the wheels' for the MBI, etc.). Verizon is still likely to make it as
hard as possible, since it would mean (gasp!) *competition*, which as we all
know is seriously bad news [for a monopoly]. :-)
>
> Seth
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Robert Heller <heller at deepsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > At Sun, 1 Dec 2013 08:23:53 -0500 "tom's gmail" <tomadams at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > > where would you run the fiber? a foot of space on the telephone poles
> > costs
> > > a zillion dollars and you need to weave your way through a hundred miles
> > of
> > > bureaucratic red tape to get there. it's so old school and restrictive
> > it's
> > > ridiculous.
> >
> > The city *could* take the poles under 'eminent domain'...
> >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Tom Adams,
> > > Chair of Williamsburg Technology Cmte
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > > > On Nov 30, 2013, at 8:31 PM, Robert Heller <heller at deepsoft.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's
> > area.
> > > > ** If you did, we all thank you.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:50:51 -0500 Seth Fischer <
> > seth at woodpelletprice.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> MIME-Version: 1.0
> > > >>
> > > >> ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's
> > area.
> > > >> ** If you did, we all thank you.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Well it seems like it's worth more discussion.
> > > >>
> > > >> I actually wasn't thinking so much about WIFI at this point, but more
> > along
> > > >> the lines of running fiber and have very fast internet access piped to
> > > >> everyone's home/business. WIFI could be an add-on for just downtown
> > and
> > > >> Florence center.
> > > >>
> > > >> I appreciate the information. Comcast is currently the only game in
> > town
> > > >> and while their costs drop, their prices keep going up.
> > > >
> > > > That is the way things currently work in this country. The USA is 11th
> > in
> > > > Internet availablity worldwide. There is a book by Susan Crawford
> > (along with
> > > > an interview with Bill Moyers), that explains the problem with the US's
> > > > telecom industry.
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> I will be setting up a small meeting to discuss (and flesh out) a
> > little
> > > >> more detail and then possibly a larger forum to expand involvement.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks again,
> > > >>
> > > >> Seth
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Fateh Slavitskaya <fateh at urchn.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's
> > area.
> > > >>> ** If you did, we all thank you.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Big diff between muni broadband and muni wifi. Having both would be
> > > >>> great, if the wifi could actually work. -F
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> On Fri, 2013-11-29 at 18:24 -0500, Al Williams wrote:
> > > >>>> ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the member's
> > > >>> area.
> > > >>>> ** If you did, we all thank you.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Quite a few municipal Wi-Fi experiments have been troubled - see
> > > >>>> Portland, OR. Shrewsbury offers municipal hard line system.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Nov 29, 2013 6:13 PM, "Shel Horowitz, Ethical/Green Marketing
> > > >>>> Expert" <shel at principledprofit.com> wrote:
> > > >>>> ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the
> > > >>>> member's area.
> > > >>>> ** If you did, we all thank you.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Amherst has town wi-fi--might be good to talk to someone over
> > > >>>> there.
> > > >>>> Though frankly, I have had very poor experience trying to log
> > > >>>> on to
> > > >>>> the town wi-fi network from e.g., Amherst Coffee.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> At 1:08 PM -0500 11/29/13, Seth Fischer wrote:
> > > >>>>> ** Be sure to fill out the survey/skills inventory in the
> > > >>>> member's area.
> > > >>>>> ** If you did, we all thank you.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Hello All,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I am interested in promoting the idea of Municipal (offered)
> > > >>>>> Broadband in Northampton. Comcast is simply too expensive and
> > > >>>> low
> > > >>>>> speed for the citizens and businesses in Northampton. I
> > > >>>> believe
> > > >>>>> Municipal Broadband would help the residents, as well as make
> > > >>>> the
> > > >>>>> City more appealing to businesses.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I believe Northampton is an idea location, as such as large
> > > >>>> percent
> > > >>>>> of the population is within 1 mile of downtown.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I have spoken with a City Councillor who expressed
> > > >>>> significant
> > > >>>>> interest in (at least) exploring the idea.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Does anyone know any of the issues related to a Municipal
> > > >>>> Broadband
> > > >>>>> initiative?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Thanks,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Seth Fischer
> > > >>>>>
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